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AK47 23-03-2012 15:20

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 2446917)
All the b-sides and some interesting demos, ta. Leave the remixes, acoustic versions and live stuff off.

If they offer them up, I'll take them. Why leave them off?

nsebastian 23-03-2012 15:55

Remastered tracks (adding live drumming would be brilliant), demos, and unseen footage from the music video recordings, like the extra clips for Love's Sweet Exile. Maybe some interviews.

Flint 23-03-2012 16:05

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Originally Posted by AK47 (Post 2446928)
If they offer them up, I'll take them. Why leave them off?

Considering it's probably going to be another 2CD effort (+ DVD) and CD1 is going to be filled to the brim with the actual album, I'd rather that precious disc space was given to the more interesting/essential (IMO) things.

TBH there's so much that you could fill the tracklist with (the early demos, the re-recorded GT tracks from the US release, b-sides, album demos, live material, etc) that it's going to be really interesting to see what they go with.

AK47 23-03-2012 16:05

I really hope they do a fantastic job on this set and not rush it through.

AK47 23-03-2012 16:08

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 2446935)
Considering it's probably going to be another 2CD effort (+ DVD) and CD1 is going to be filled to the brim with the actual album, I'd rather that precious disc space was given to the more interesting/essential (IMO) things.

TBH there's so much that you could fill the tracklist with (the early demos, the re-recorded GT tracks from the US release, b-sides, album demos, live material, etc) that it's going to be really interesting to see what they go with.

Very true. I have 99% of the GT era stuff as it is on original CD's, imports, etc. I'd still love to own this set regardless. I have a hunch the band will record a documentary to acompany the release and just talk about the recording, the writing lyrics, the look, etc. This would be a release purely for the purists and completists.

Donkey 23-03-2012 17:31

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Originally Posted by nsebastian (Post 2446933)
Remastered tracks (adding live drumming would be brilliant).

OMG remastering discussion again. How do you expect live drums to appear during mastering???

mastering = you get the final mix in wave (one track) and you only change it's sound a bit. Add some compression, EQ, reverb sometimes, limiter to choose volume etc.

If you need them to change something in music then you need them to RE-MIX it. (I think that the glorius "remastering" hyster was caused by musical industry always highliting something is remastered or digitaly remeastered although in 99%ˇthere's no need to remaster it. Only we you take some very old record and want it to sound modern and compressed. But even in that case I prefer the old master.)


I think and I really think, that re-recording of anything is the worst idea ever.

Re-mixing is also a bad idea IMHO.

Ironically re.mastering would help a lot in case of GT, because it's too silent and mid-frequency-orientated and that can be solved.

nsebastian 23-03-2012 22:51

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Originally Posted by Donkey (Post 2446969)
OMG remastering discussion again. How do you expect live drums to appear during mastering???

Sorry, I meant remastering for volume, clarity, etc, and then as an afterthought, that adding live drums in addition to remastering would be interesting.

Donkey 23-03-2012 22:58

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Originally Posted by nsebastian (Post 2447168)
Sorry, I meant remastering for volume, clarity, etc, and then as an afterthought, that adding live drums in addition to remastering would be interesting.

OK, no problem at all! :)

almostfamous 24-03-2012 08:49

We should put together some sort of "ransom note" with cut out letters and send it to The Management...OUR DEMANDS!

Yes please - 1) I want the mythical version of "LSE" which is supposedly far superior to the version they released. 2) Oh and the stars and stripes version of "You Love Us" which is bloody ace. 3) Don't rerecord stuff. Its wrong to tinker too much with the space/time continuum. Look what happened to Marty McFly = A whole bowl of wrong is what. 4) The colour on the sleeve fixed liked the band wanted it. Make it happen. 5) A full length (a twenty minutes mini-doc will be shown the door) documentary compilation of "candid" studio footage, twists n turns, drama n' heartwarming edge of the seat moments on the dvd WITH commentary track of james, nicky and sean eating chips, drinking from cans of fanta and laughing a lot. Oh and if you could do a blu-ray version for a pound more that'd be grand.

No thanks - 1) Demos recorded on "Mono-C60-ferrous-oxide-cassettes-ten-for-a-fiver from-the-Tandy's-downtown-you know-the-one-next-to-the-big-Wimpy" that are of such poor quality I'll listen to them once and put them on the shelf and never take them down til I'm moving house or dead. 2) B Sides most of us have in place of stuff we've never heard. C'mon space is serious on this shiz. 3) Live stuff (audio). Yawn. 4) Dont put crappy live stuff especially after the proper album on CD1 it totally ruins the atmos. 5) A £200 version in a dented Clarks' shoebox with "#49,999 of 50,000" written on the side in biro.

PaulTMA 24-03-2012 13:41

But remastering just makes everything sound better doesn't it? Especially on my laptop speakers!!! Literally.

Porco 24-03-2012 16:36

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Originally Posted by almostfamous (Post 2447247)

[....] recorded on "Mono-C60-ferrous-oxide-cassettes-ten-for-a-fiver from-the-Tandy's-downtown-you know-the-one-next-to-the-big-Wimpy" [....]

:lol:

Excellent nostalgia-invoking description.

Aestivate 24-03-2012 17:01

The problem with GT is that they should have mixed it in dobly

deadmartyr 24-03-2012 18:03

Pump up the volume, brand new documentary with some never before seen old footage, and unheard audio. Really hoping there's an unknown song or two, whether recorded in the studio or only to the demo stage.

Donkey 24-03-2012 18:23

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Originally Posted by PaulTMA (Post 2447286)
But remastering just makes everything sound better doesn't it? Especially on my laptop speakers!!! Literally.

re-mastering = mastereing again.

1) 92: GT final mix + 92 mastering = GT

2) 2012: GT final mix + 2012 mastering = GT 2012

it's just another attempt. It could sound better, worse, same... it's like when you have your car parked and decide to re-park it. You can do it exactly the same, better or worse. Also you can crash into abother car :D That's what happens when you destroy GT final mix. :)

UEF 24-03-2012 22:49

Do something to make the album not sound like this

http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-co...Egg-Carton.jpg

But please, no gigs for a few years.

I quite like the cassette tape demos we've had from EMG though, so don't get rid of those!


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