Generation Terrorists: 20th Anniversary Edition
Hopes and expectations for the release?
It definitely needs remastering, would they go as far as a re-record for some tracks or just leave them raw and young? Wonder which demos they have stocked up and unheard things, maybe Behave Yourself Baby will get a single release (you know it makes sense) |
James, Nicky and Sean werewolf transformation video for Damn Dog?
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As much as it would be good to hear, they can't do any re-recording or remixing without rendering the original album completely redundant. I still think the remastering for Stay Beautiful and Love's Sweet Exile on National Treasures is great. If they can get everything else up to that level (which, to my ears, they didn't do on NT, especially You Love Us), then that's a job well done.
Obviously the anniversary has been and gone, so I take that to mean they'll be using the Christmas market once more to release a rip off box set version. I wonder what unbranded goodies they'll pick up from the Boots sale to include in it this time? |
I really hope they do this re-release justice. It would be excellent to have the original album remastered on CD1 and on CD2 to have a lot of demo tracks, outtakes, etc. The DVD SHOULD include all of the videos from that period on Hi-Def format. I very much doubt we'll see any of the Astoria shows on the DVD. The idea of re-recording sounds good, in theory, however, all I would personally want is for the drums to be redone. The vocals from James are fantastic anyway and to re-record vocals or tracks from scratch would diminish the youthfulness of the original recordings. I'm all for a residency somewhere for the band to play GT in its entireity :)
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Remastering and the demos Nicky mentioned is a given. I hope he was serious about the release and not just being Nickyish.
I'd like a bonus disc of the album rerecorded or acoustic but there's no way that'll happen. Not fussed about the bsides being on there, want as much stuff I've not heard before. I mainly got the NT box for the remastered GT era stuff. Maybe they've got some archive live footage for a DVD? That'd get a thumbs up from me. |
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They actually going to release an anniversary edition? I hope there's a really good DVD with cool interviews and lots of live and TV performances. And I hope the booklet(s) will be able to be removed from the packaging cos it's annoying having to lay the entire Holy Bible and EMG packages down on a table or my bed to read the booklets.
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Looking forward to the interview bits! :D
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Full video for Strip it Down?
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Oh yeah, I hope they drag that one out of the vault kicking and screaming!
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Something to look forward to anyway! Yay! :D
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they needs remastering it but I prefer leave them raw and young...
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I'd love for this to come out. All the other bands doing deluxe versions (Pumpkins, Suede, Mary Chain etc) seem to get it right. Remastering, demos, era gig on DVD would be fantastic.
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All the b-sides and some interesting demos, ta. Leave the remixes, acoustic versions and live stuff off.
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Remastered tracks (adding live drumming would be brilliant), demos, and unseen footage from the music video recordings, like the extra clips for Love's Sweet Exile. Maybe some interviews.
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TBH there's so much that you could fill the tracklist with (the early demos, the re-recorded GT tracks from the US release, b-sides, album demos, live material, etc) that it's going to be really interesting to see what they go with. |
I really hope they do a fantastic job on this set and not rush it through.
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mastering = you get the final mix in wave (one track) and you only change it's sound a bit. Add some compression, EQ, reverb sometimes, limiter to choose volume etc. If you need them to change something in music then you need them to RE-MIX it. (I think that the glorius "remastering" hyster was caused by musical industry always highliting something is remastered or digitaly remeastered although in 99%ˇthere's no need to remaster it. Only we you take some very old record and want it to sound modern and compressed. But even in that case I prefer the old master.) I think and I really think, that re-recording of anything is the worst idea ever. Re-mixing is also a bad idea IMHO. Ironically re.mastering would help a lot in case of GT, because it's too silent and mid-frequency-orientated and that can be solved. |
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We should put together some sort of "ransom note" with cut out letters and send it to The Management...OUR DEMANDS!
Yes please - 1) I want the mythical version of "LSE" which is supposedly far superior to the version they released. 2) Oh and the stars and stripes version of "You Love Us" which is bloody ace. 3) Don't rerecord stuff. Its wrong to tinker too much with the space/time continuum. Look what happened to Marty McFly = A whole bowl of wrong is what. 4) The colour on the sleeve fixed liked the band wanted it. Make it happen. 5) A full length (a twenty minutes mini-doc will be shown the door) documentary compilation of "candid" studio footage, twists n turns, drama n' heartwarming edge of the seat moments on the dvd WITH commentary track of james, nicky and sean eating chips, drinking from cans of fanta and laughing a lot. Oh and if you could do a blu-ray version for a pound more that'd be grand. No thanks - 1) Demos recorded on "Mono-C60-ferrous-oxide-cassettes-ten-for-a-fiver from-the-Tandy's-downtown-you know-the-one-next-to-the-big-Wimpy" that are of such poor quality I'll listen to them once and put them on the shelf and never take them down til I'm moving house or dead. 2) B Sides most of us have in place of stuff we've never heard. C'mon space is serious on this shiz. 3) Live stuff (audio). Yawn. 4) Dont put crappy live stuff especially after the proper album on CD1 it totally ruins the atmos. 5) A £200 version in a dented Clarks' shoebox with "#49,999 of 50,000" written on the side in biro. |
But remastering just makes everything sound better doesn't it? Especially on my laptop speakers!!! Literally.
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Excellent nostalgia-invoking description. |
The problem with GT is that they should have mixed it in dobly
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Pump up the volume, brand new documentary with some never before seen old footage, and unheard audio. Really hoping there's an unknown song or two, whether recorded in the studio or only to the demo stage.
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1) 92: GT final mix + 92 mastering = GT 2) 2012: GT final mix + 2012 mastering = GT 2012 it's just another attempt. It could sound better, worse, same... it's like when you have your car parked and decide to re-park it. You can do it exactly the same, better or worse. Also you can crash into abother car :D That's what happens when you destroy GT final mix. :) |
Do something to make the album not sound like this
http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-co...Egg-Carton.jpg But please, no gigs for a few years. I quite like the cassette tape demos we've had from EMG though, so don't get rid of those! |
Disc 1 with a remastered album, Sean replaying the drums hopefully on the tracks! Disc 2 B sides, demos and live tracks. DVD band interview about the album, all the videos in great quality, old band interviews and live performances.
PLEASE! :D |
Closest we'll get to 'real' drums will be the hopefully included radio session tracks (would love to have clear quality versions of the Methadone Pretty and Natwest...radio sessions) I'd bet on an alternative bomb squad mix of Repeat in there too ,have I just put a dampner on the whole reissue now ? ;)
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I really don't like the idea of re-recording the drums for the main disc, I don't like the idea of rewriting history like that. I'd also imagine there's no way to make it actually sound like it fits without re-recording the rest of the songs too and that'd be even worse. Hope they won't do it. The closest thing they should do is add the American version re-recordings on the bonus disc but that's it.
Plus I've gotten too used to the drum machine sounds, they're an integral part of the album's sound! |
When I listen to GT I don't hear a drum machine (maybe I would if I was a drummer) but I do hear a lot of 80s EQ, scooped guitar and a James that can't sing very well.
Don't see the point of changing it a little bit. |
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I really want the "Fuck off" mixed back into Stay Beautiful if possible.
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I guess the drums re-recording isn't as important, personally I think the remastering of the tracks for National Treasures was superb, the same job for the rest of the album and I'm happy!
James' voice is great on GT, I think it's just so unique his early voice. |
Suicide Alley and Motown Junk, those are songs where his voice is weak. On GT it's fine unless you're the kind of person who prefers his more recent Robbie Williams/Gary Barlow/Matt Cardle impersonations.
Then a year later on GATS it was in its prime. |
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