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rosetree 30-11-2020 00:31

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Originally Posted by Porco (Post 2685359)
Yeah, I was thinking he looked and sounded like he was on a late 1990s Realplayer stream... or maybe an early 2000s mobile phone camera adapter. ;)

I don't think he's a smart arse. It looks like he's just decided to sing Motorcycle Emptiness and record it. Not deceive, win points or try to bring the band down. Robbie Williams did the song and he didn't know the words.

Porco 30-11-2020 09:06

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Originally Posted by rosetree (Post 2685360)
I don't think he's a smart arse. It looks like he's just decided to sing Motorcycle Emptiness and record it. Not deceive, win points or try to bring the band down. Robbie Williams did the song and he didn't know the words.

(I feel like we’re still talking at cross-purposes!) Yeah I was just making fun of the terrible quality of the recording, I wouldn’t have minded hearing it properly, but it could honestly be anyone and I still have no idea if I think the performance is any good(?!).

Routine Builder 30-11-2020 10:37

Struggling to find the words smart or arse in Porco's post.... Must start taking my pills again.

Pete Doherty is just the worst.... (In a world with Laurence Fox, probably not, but I am intent on being a bitter shit today)

Glyn 30-11-2020 12:33

I enjoy the odd Libertines and Babyshambles tune but that's bad.

Suddenly Robbie ' I don't know what it means but f#@+ing come on!' William's version sounds a whole lot better.

Suicide Aldi 30-11-2020 18:00

I like Pete Doherty. But this is not good at all. For some reason he really seems to doubled down on his whole shambolic shtick the last few years.

UEF 30-11-2020 18:24

People tend to rather freely say that someone has 'murdered' a song by the mere act of covering it.

That said, Jesus Christ...

raven 30-11-2020 22:32

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Originally Posted by Porco (Post 2685362)
(I feel like we’re still talking at cross-purposes!) Yeah I was just making fun of the terrible quality of the recording, I wouldn’t have minded hearing it properly, but it could honestly be anyone and I still have no idea if I think the performance is any good(?!).

Neither does Pete :)

rosetree 01-12-2020 02:40

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Originally Posted by Porco (Post 2685362)
(I feel like we’re still talking at cross-purposes!) Yeah I was just making fun of the terrible quality of the recording, I wouldn’t have minded hearing it properly, but it could honestly be anyone and I still have no idea if I think the performance is any good(?!).

I think the worst could be an artist who likes the band, but no connection with the lyrics and wouldn't be thought to wreck the song.

Porco 01-12-2020 05:55

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Originally Posted by raven (Post 2685371)
Neither does Pete :)

:lol: Possibly!

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Originally Posted by rosetree (Post 2685372)
I think the worst could be an artist who likes the band, but no connection with the lyrics and wouldn't be thought to wreck the song.

I feel more confused now than I was before, sorry, but I’m very tired. :confused:

Are you just saying at least Pete knows the words, and Robbie didn’t, and the latter is worse?

I honestly don’t feel all that strongly about either of them, the only difference to me is Robbie’s stream was better. I’m glad if anyone is singing Manics songs for fun, famous or not. :)

*Sings Motorcycle Emptiness* ‘Culture sucks down words... forums sometimes confuse but never-mi-i-ind...’

hummingbird 01-12-2020 15:49

Is it so bad it's good ?

LA ex 01-12-2020 17:28

The sound quality is atrocious. But what can be made out isn't great.

Nicky has often (or at least did fifteen years ago) praise the Libertines for their shambolic brilliance. I can't remember Pete (or any of the other Libertines) commenting on the Manics before.

Suicide Aldi 01-12-2020 17:32

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Originally Posted by LA ex (Post 2685376)
The sound quality is atrocious. But what can be made out isn't great.

Nicky has often (or at least did fifteen years ago) praise the Libertines for their shambolic brilliance. I can't remember Pete (or any of the other Libertines) commenting on the Manics before.

Pete wrote into NME as a teenager slagging off the manics i believe. But i think he praised Richeys lyrics later on if my memory serves.

UEF 01-12-2020 17:37

Yeah that was my recollection too. A young Pet(er) Doherty wrote into either NME or Melody Maker and said some poetic bollocks about the manics, he was fairly well bought in but I can’t find an image of the letter

rosetree 01-12-2020 18:29

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I feel more confused now than I was before, sorry, but I’m very tired. :confused:

Are you just saying at least Pete knows the words, and Robbie didn’t, and the latter is worse?

I honestly don’t feel all that strongly about either of them, the only difference to me is Robbie’s stream was better. I’m glad if anyone is singing Manics songs for fun, famous or not. :)


*Sings Motorcycle Emptiness* ‘Culture sucks down words... forums sometimes confuse but never-mi-i-ind...’
I wasn't comparing them, but in my post I said I think it's OK and at least he knew the lyrics. Even though it's muddled. I agree what is mentioned by Nicky about the shambolic.

I didn't think it was done as a practiced cover. I was surprised that Robbie Williams didn't know the song on the video he did. when Motorcycle Emptiness is from the 90s, but they had different hits and he possibly wasn't a fan, even though bands usually know of songs that are out. If a band such as perhaps Coldplay covered it for any reason it wouldn't be good.

Radiohead once covered Tolerate and it was out of tune, so maybe it was purposely. I think those who work with the Manics would do it very well like The Anchoress or Gwenno. I can't think of a band who could do it justice or if it's been covered before.

Routine Builder 01-12-2020 19:00

In fairness, Thom sings most Radiohead tracks out of tune as well... (pretty sure it was an inbetween song jingle rather than a full on cover)


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