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gabo86 29-07-2009 22:16

B-sides collection - is it really complete?
 
EDIT:
4 years lates I decide to re-upload the complete b-sides list. I don't consider live version, acoustic versions and remixes (but I do consider alternate versions, like Tennesee (I Get Low) and the two Heavenly songs later re-recorded.
The songs are divided into eras. In order to create a companion cd for every album, I merged the Know Your Enemy and Forever Delayed eras (though I know they sound quite different) and I did the same for the Postcards From A Young Man and National Treasures eras.

I put Suicide Is Painless in the GATS era...just because the GT B-sides cd has 22 tracks and it's almost full, and the GATS one just 10.
I put Bright Eyes in the THB era because, although it was released in the EMG era, it was recorded during the Astoria concerts in 1994.
I put The Masses Against The Classes (and its b-sides) in the TIMTTMY era because...because that song (and Rock and Roll music) was played at the Millennium concert, that's a typical TIMTTMY concerto (no KYE stuff in it).

All the songs in each eras are sorted in chronological order.

Now...I'm gonna post the screenshots of all the playlist.

Thank you!

gabo86 29-07-2009 22:17

Generation Terrorists

Suicide Alley
Tennessee (I Get Low)
New Art Riot
Strip It Down
Last Exit On Yesterday
Teenage 20/20
Motown Junk
Sorrow 16
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
You Love Us (Heavenly Version)
Spectators Of Suicide (Heavenly Version)
Starlover
R.P. McMurphy
Soul Contamination
Democracy Coma
A Vision Of Dead Desire
It's So Easy
Ain't Goin' Down
Bored Out Of My Mind
Under My Wheels
Never Want Again
Dead Yankee Drawl

Gold Against The Soul

Suicide Is Painless
Hibernation
Patrick Bateman
What's My Name
Us Against You
Donkeys
Wrote For Luck
Comfort Comes
Are Mother Saints
Charles Windsor

The Holy Bible

Pennyroyal Tea
Sculpture Of Man
Too Cold Here
Love Torn Us Under
The Drowners
Stay With Me
Bright Eyes

Everything Must Go

Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head
Mr Carboydrate
Dead Passive
Dead Trees And Traffic Islands
Black Garden
Hanging On
No One Knows What It's Like To Be Me
Horses Under Starlight
Sepia
First Republic
Take The Skinheads Bowling
Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Velocity Girl
Last Christmas

This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours

Prologue To History
Montana/Autumn/78
Black Holes For The Young
Valley Boy
Socialist Serenade
Train In Vain
Been A Son
Buildings For Dead People
The Masses Against The Classes
Close My Eyes
Rock And Roll Music

Know Your Enemy

We Are All Bourgeois Now
Locust Valley
Ballad Of The Bangkok Novotel
Pedestal
Groundhog Days
Just A Kid
Little Trolls
Masking Tape
Didn't My Lord Deliver Daniel
Fear Of Motion
There By The Grace Of God
Automatik Teknicolour
It's All Gone
Unstoppable Salvation
Happy Ending
Door To The River
Out Of Time
4 Ever Delayed
Judge Yr'self

Lifeblood

Antarctic
The Soulmates
Everyone Knows/Nobody Cares
Everything Will Be
Askew Road
Quarantine (In My Place Of)
Voodoo Polaroids
All Alone Here
No Jubilees
Litany
Dying breeds
Failure Bound
A Secret Society
Firefight
Picturesque
Leviathan
The Instrumental

Send Away The Tigers

Boxes And Lists
Love Letter To TheFuture
Welcome TO The Dead Zone
Little Girl Lost
Fearless Punk Ballad
Red Sleeping Beauty
The Long Goodbye
Morning Comrades
1404
The Voricists
Anorexic Rodin
Heyday Of The Blood
Foggy Eyes
Lady Lazarus
You Know It's Ggoing To Hurt
Ghost Of Christmas
Umbrella

Journal For Plague Lovers

Alien Orders/Invisible Armies
Primitive Painters
Vision Blurred

Postcards From A Young Man

The Girl From TIger Bay
I'm Leaving You For Solitude
Ostpolitik
Distractions
Lost Voices
I Know The Numbers
Broken Up Again
Red Rubber
Evidence Against Myself
Slow Reflections/Strange Delayed
Time Ain't Nothing
Inky Fingers
Engage With Your Shadow
Kiss My Eyes For Eternity
Midnight Sun
The Passing Show
This Is The Day
The Endless Plain Of Fortune
We Were Never TOld
Rock 'n' Roll Genius
Wake Up Alone

Rewind The Film

Melancholyme
T.E. Lawrence On A Bike
What Happened To The Blue Generation
Death Of A Digital Ghost
See It Like Sutherland

Futurology

Blistered Mirrors
Empty Motorcade
The Last Time I Saw Paris
The Sound Of Detachment
Caldey
Anti Social Manifesto
Kodawari
Start Me Up
(Feels Like) Heaven
Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)

Resistance Is Futile

Concrete Fields
A Soundtrack To Complete Withdrawal
Holding Patterns
Mirror Gaze

Mr Richey 29-07-2009 22:18

Just been listening to 'Bored Out Of My Mind' actually. Such a gorgeous song. Would love to hear Bradders do it now at a gig, just him and his acoustic.

Mr Richey 29-07-2009 22:23

Looks to be a pretty comprehensive list mate. It's got everything on it that I've got in my Media Player. Don't think you've missed anything out.

Dext37 Fielding 29-07-2009 22:29

journal for plague lovers acoustic.

gabo86 29-07-2009 22:30

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Originally Posted by Dext37 Fielding (Post 1773076)
journal for plague lovers acoustic.

Yeah, but I don't want acoustic versions or remixes, just all the songs.

Dext37 Fielding 29-07-2009 22:32

DVD extras B-sides then just to confuse things.

On 20th century i think, If You Tolerate and Ready For drowning in studio?

Dext37 Fielding 29-07-2009 22:33

Starlover was also on from despair to where 12'' and cd i believe.

gabo86 29-07-2009 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dext37 Fielding (Post 1773082)
DVD extras B-sides then just to confuse things.

On 20th century i think, If You Tolerate and Ready For drowning in studio?

Yeah, but it's the same...different versions of the same songs, so I don't care.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dext37 Fielding (Post 1773083)
Starlover was also on from despair to where 12'' and cd i believe.

Yes, but the first time it came out in the GT era (actually it was on one of the two Heavenly singles, but I put it in the GT cd).

ForeverDelayed.com 30-07-2009 00:54

well last christmas is acoustic too, yet its in there lol

masquerade 30-07-2009 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverDelayed.com (Post 1773173)
well last christmas is acoustic too, yet its in there lol

I think the point is that he wants all the song names. "Last Christmas" only appears once, which is correct. It doesn't matter whether it's live, acoustic, or whatever. It's just a list of the names of all MSP songs in the order in which they were first issued.

gabo86 30-07-2009 07:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by masquerade (Post 1773194)
I think the point is that he wants all the song names. "Last Christmas" only appears once, which is correct. It doesn't matter whether it's live, acoustic, or whatever. It's just a list of the names of all MSP songs in the order in which they were first issued.

Yes, that's it. So, I think it's complete, but maybe I've forgotten something...

Loz 30-07-2009 08:10

UK Channel Boredom, that's probably classed as a demo though isn't it?

MannyG 30-07-2009 08:18

You need the Penny Royal Tea cover version in there...

gabo86 30-07-2009 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by MannyG (Post 1773238)
You need the Penny Royal Tea cover version in there...

What era? Where can I found it?

masquerade 30-07-2009 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabo86 (Post 1773252)
What era? Where can I found it?

May 1994. Was available on a BBC CD called Evening Sessions, I believe.

gabo86 30-07-2009 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by masquerade (Post 1773256)
May 1994. Was available on a BBC CD called Evening Sessions, I believe.

Ok. So it was kind of official release. So I searched for it onto my hard disk and found it. I put it as the first track of the THB companion disc, because the first single (and the first b-sides, Sculpture Of Man) has been released in June, after this Session.
Thanks!

Donkey 30-07-2009 09:26

Been a Son?
Take The Skinheads Bowling should be there twice.

gabo86 30-07-2009 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donkey (Post 1773264)
Been a Son?
Take The Skinheads Bowling should be there twice.

Been A Son is in the TIMTTMY era because, according to manics.nl, it was recorded in 1999.
Many songs should be there twice, but I decided to put each song just one time. My aim is: listen to all the proper albums, listen to all these companion cd, and you will have listened to ALL the Manics' songs, without even a single repeatition

Donkey 30-07-2009 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabo86 (Post 1773278)
Many songs should be there twice

But Take The Skinheads Bowling was re-recorded for Lipstick Traces, that's why I picked it...

gabo86 30-07-2009 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donkey (Post 1773279)
But Take The Skinheads Bowling was re-recorded for Lipstick Traces, that's why I picked it...

Re-recorded?
I didn't know this!
But I have the LT version and I think I'll keep it...

Dext37 Fielding 30-07-2009 10:58

ghost of christmas.

Dext37 Fielding 30-07-2009 11:02

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_S...achers_B-sides

gabo86 30-07-2009 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dext37 Fielding (Post 1773295)
ghost of christmas.

it's in the SATT cd, #16

gabo86 30-07-2009 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dext37 Fielding (Post 1773296)

I used that as a source, along with all the singles' pages on Wikipedia, and manics.nl

The_Great_Dictator 30-07-2009 14:44

The only things I can think of missing are the two Nirvana covers (Been A Son & Pennyroyal Tea), James' acoustic covers of You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory & Endless Plane of Fortune - oh and all of the JDB & Nicky Wire B-sides (I included those on mine anyway and to me they're just as good.)

I also have Judge Yr'self at the end of The Holy Bible stuff just 'cause it was recorded shortly afterward.

If you want to get even pickier, you could include Lopez (w/ 808 State), the song JDB did with Tom Jones (You're Right, I'm Left, She's Gone) etc. but those aren't really essential.

The_Great_Dictator 30-07-2009 14:50

Sorry, I just saw Been A Son on there - nevermind!

Jennie Wren 30-07-2009 15:51

Even though I don't rate KYE as an album I love a few of it's b sides :heart:

Pedestal
Ballad of a Bangkok Novotel
Locust Valley
Fear of Motion

Oh and LB's

Failure Bound ... sooo very relevant to todays economy and on a more small scale in Valley Life

gabo86 30-07-2009 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Great_Dictator (Post 1773494)
The only things I can think of missing are the two Nirvana covers (Been A Son & Pennyroyal Tea), James' acoustic covers of You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory & Endless Plane of Fortune - oh and all of the JDB & Nicky Wire B-sides (I included those on mine anyway and to me they're just as good.)

I also have Judge Yr'self at the end of The Holy Bible stuff just 'cause it was recorded shortly afterward.

If you want to get even pickier, you could include Lopez (w/ 808 State), the song JDB did with Tom Jones (You're Right, I'm Left, She's Gone) etc. but those aren't really essential.

As you've later noticed, I inlucded Been A Son, and after an advice on this forum, I included Pennyroyal Tea too. The other songs you listed are solo stuff (James' or Nicky's), and this "project" includes just the Manics. So, I won't put them in these companion CDs.

For Judge Yr'self I'm not sure...I read somewhere that it was re-recorded in 2003 and mixed with a techno remix made by Sean. Is it true?

coldo 30-07-2009 16:54

Could anyone give me links on the internet where I can download all these b-sides? I been searching for ages.

gladstone 30-07-2009 17:44

Nice one Gabo. Ill compare that to my collection as well

venusinfurs 30-07-2009 18:19

Glory, Glory and Dixie from the EMG deluxe edition?
Working Class Hero (if you're including We're All Bourgeois Now...)
The two tracks James wrote the music for on the Patrick Jones album?

gabo86 30-07-2009 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by venusinfurs (Post 1773777)
Glory, Glory and Dixie from the EMG deluxe edition?
Working Class Hero (if you're including We're All Bourgeois Now...)
The two tracks James wrote the music for on the Patrick Jones album?

1. Glory, Glory and Dixie aren't by the Manics, are they?
2. You are right, but there is a difference. If you wanna listen to We Are All Bourgeois Now you have to wait sooooo much time, and I always skip it (KYE, for me, finishes with Freedom Of Speech). While Working Class Hero is just after Winterlovers. So...when listening to the albums, I listen to Working Class Hero, but never to We Are All Bourgeis Now, that I put into the companion cd for this reason.
3. They're kind of solo tracks, not Manic's work. So I won't include them.

Takk 30-07-2009 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldo (Post 1773693)
Could anyone give me links on the internet where I can download all these b-sides? I been searching for ages.

Most are on itunes.

Noisy Cat 30-07-2009 21:55

Penny Royal Tea - recorded during Holy Bible era and released during EMG era on the CD 'Evening Session Priority Tunes'

Deets 30-07-2009 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Great_Dictator (Post 1773494)
You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory & Endless Plane of Fortune

what are these two?

gabo86 30-07-2009 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noisy Cat (Post 1774079)
Penny Royal Tea - recorded during Holy Bible era and released during EMG era on the CD 'Evening Session Priority Tunes'

I put this in the THB era because that era has few songs :S

masquerade 31-07-2009 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabo86 (Post 1773889)
If you wanna listen to We Are All Bourgeois Now you have to wait sooooo much time, and I always skip it

Is that because it's a hidden track? (I'm not familiar with these late Manics records!) Why not simply split them in iTunes or similar?

Noisy Cat 31-07-2009 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deets (Post 1774094)
what are these two?

If I remember rightly, JDB played them solo acoustic for an AOL session in 2007(?)

Try Youtube.

Hennus 31-07-2009 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by masquerade (Post 1774516)
Is that because it's a hidden track? (I'm not familiar with these late Manics records!) Why not simply split them in iTunes or similar?

How to do that? I'm kinda 'new' at iTunes.


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