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Borderliner 29-03-2015 16:33

Just watched No Manifesto. It was so refreshing. I always thought that I like Manic Street Preachers and that's that but now I realize that I love them even more. I've never seen them live and probably never will so I'm really glad I watched this amazing film!

MoMoney MoJunk 30-03-2015 14:08

Where do you live Borderliner?

You should check them out, they're pretty decent ;)

sculptureofabloke 30-03-2015 14:42

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 2638209)
Which begs the question; videos aside, why is there no official MSP live in concert release? The O2 concert would've made for a perfect 2-CD concert release.

I honestly cannot think of a single other band that has been around for longer than 10 years, is really good live and doesn't have a single official live release. Fucking Muse already has like three.

I don't get it either, they've been happy enough to stick live tracks on b-sides. Off the top of my head I can think of about 30 at least, if that's fine and if three compilations are fine, why not?

Automatik 30-03-2015 14:56

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Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke (Post 2638546)
I don't get it either, they've been happy enough to stick live tracks on b-sides. Off the top of my head I can think of about 30 at least, if that's fine and if three compilations are fine, why not?

Perhaps the record company already assessed the demand of the live album format and concluded that sales-wise it was a non-starter.

As you say, there's more than enough material for a live compilation.

sculptureofabloke 30-03-2015 15:08

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Originally Posted by Automatik (Post 2638549)
Perhaps the record company already assessed the demand of the live album format and concluded that sales-wise it was a non-starter.

As you say, there's more than enough material for a live compilation.

I dunno... Even if it's half the demand of Futurology or Rewind The Film, I'd expect for a major label, live albums and other compilations are bloody cheap to make. The gig/gigs already happened and that's not cost the label anything, they're not having to ship the band off to an expensive studio or hire a big name producer and wait however long for them to finish recording. Wouldn't expect you'd have to shift that many units to turn into a profit.

Automatik 30-03-2015 15:13

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Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke (Post 2638551)
I dunno... Even if it's half the demand of Futurology or Rewind The Film, I'd expect for a major label, live albums and other compilations are bloody cheap to make. The gig/gigs already happened and that's not cost the label anything, they're not having to ship the band off to an expensive studio or hire a big name producer and wait however long for them to finish recording. Wouldn't expect you'd have to shift that many units to turn into a profit.

That's a good point. Presumably the record company would view hardcore Manics fans (like us) as a sort of captive market for any live release, and that it consequently be financially worth their while to put one out.

Maybe it is just the band saying no.

sculptureofabloke 30-03-2015 15:20

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Originally Posted by Automatik (Post 2638553)
That's a good point. Presumably the record company would view hardcore Manics fans (like us) as a sort of captive market for any live release, and that it consequently be financially worth their while to put one out.

Maybe it is just the band saying no.

Yeah, course it probably wouldn't outsell any of their studio albums or compilations, but it'd be neither here nor there for the label surely, may as well go along with it.

I vaguely remember the band slagging off live albums in the past though.. Well, course they did, they're a thing :p

Automatik 30-03-2015 15:28

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Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke (Post 2638554)
Yeah, course it probably wouldn't outsell any of their studio albums or compilations, but it'd be neither here nor there for the label surely, may as well go along with it.

Given Lipstick Traces, Forever Delayed and National Treasures, an 'MSP Unplugged' live compilation is the only traditional music industry milk-of-the-cow that hasn't been done.

And like LT, FD and NT, if they banged an 'exclusive track' (i.e. most likely dug out an old song that wasn't even fit to be released as a b-side) on it, I am sure that I would buy the record out of sheer completeness. (And of course the Japanese release would have an extra track...)

I won't even try and hide it.

Nobody 30-03-2015 15:37

Would love to see a 2-3 disc compilation of unreleased live tracks from throughout their career. Presuming it's mixed right and the best performances are picked. The previous videos are good by they are more of significant concerts then good concerts.

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Found this in an Oxfam shop today, had to buy it:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ps7mmqgyd6.jpg

No Manics on the tape, just for the cover. It's from 1993, I wonder if anyone thought this was a bit in poor taste.

Automatik 30-03-2015 15:43

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Originally Posted by Nobody (Post 2638557)
It's from 1993, I wonder if anyone thought this was a bit in poor taste.

Oh, NME, you so controversial.

I wonder what the band thought of that at the time. I am sure they were aware of it.

I know Richey thought his appearance as the caricatured 'Clarence' of the 'Crazy Sked Moaners' in the Judge Dredd story 'Muzak Killer' (Garth Ennis and Dermot Power) - who cuts '4 RALE [sic]' into his forehead with a laser during an interview and promptly dies - around the same time was amusing.

At least that's what I read.

gracie 30-03-2015 16:14

Whenever I'm skimming through Manics blogs and stuff and I see scans of Sean on the front of drums magazines, Nick on bass magazines etc, I always imagine that if Richey were here today, while the boys were doing music related shit, he'd be on the front of Vogue. So fucking chic.

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I know Richey thought his appearance as the caricatured 'Clarence' of the 'Crazy Sked Moaners' in the Judge Dredd story 'Muzak Killer' (Garth Ennis and Dermot Power) - who cuts '4 RALE [sic]' into his forehead with a laser during an interview and promptly dies - around the same time was amusing.
Oh, Richey. :heart: :lol:

slop101 30-03-2015 19:24

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Originally Posted by Automatik (Post 2638555)
an 'MSP Unplugged' live compilation ....

Oh, yeah, give me a live album of MSP songs done like this below, that are awesome, yet completely different from the album versions!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XHrcO55umSA

Strawberry 31-03-2015 18:47

I just looked at some of the What are you lusting after? thread and Aw at the photo of Nicky Wire on page 66.

Automatik 31-03-2015 19:00

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Originally Posted by Strawberry (Post 2638668)
I just looked at some of the What are you lusting after? thread and Aw at the photo of Nicky Wire on page 66.

Why is the first letter of every one of your posts highlighted in a different colour? Is it an acrostic?

Strawberry 31-03-2015 19:05

No, it's not an acrostic. I just think the colours are pretty.


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