From the setlist in the preview video, it looks as though they are going with Prologue over Nobody Loved you.

There's setlists being revealed BEFORE they've played a gig on the tour? How on earth am I meant to stay spoiler free against those kinds of odds?

It was just a list of the TIMT songs that they were rehearsing, not full setlists being posted up.

However, Kieran Evans said that they’ve been rehearsing some very rare stuff for the second half. Looking forward to seeing that.

I don't know if this is the kind of thing that is right for this thread but, here goes... I'm currently in the process of moving house and yesterday I charged up a really old phone just to see what was on it and found the number of someone I met and exchanged addresses with outside Wembley Arena in 1998 for the original Truth tour. We used to write to each other now and again before the internet was inside everyone's pockets. We were both staunch luddites and she had zero online presence so we haven't been in touch since about 2003 ish.

Anyway, I texted the number to see if she was still on the same number and she was. She replied and could not believe that I'd got in touch. Thank you Manics. I would never have met her if we hadn't both been standing next to each other in the queue outside a Manics gig x

See if I make a thread called "Manics Splitting?" It would cause no end of misunderstanding and generate a self fulfilling prophecy.
But... Two things

Firstly ages ago Sean shared something on Facebook about it being a sad year for Nerds with Star Wars and something else something Marvel related and Game of Thrones finishing. (My query but the Manics have got more albums in them, right?," went unanswered)

Second clue is the Let It Be album cover stitched as a patch on Nicky's jacket. Although that album was their penultimate chronologically, are we getting Abbey Road as envisioned by the Manics?

I suppose the recording studio will always pay for itself anyway...
Has there been any "See you next year!" From James at end of gigs? What did he say at the end of the shows you've seen? WHAT DID HE SAY?!! Ahhd just press post

That's a beautiful chain of events!

So far, off the top of my head the manics have been splitting up in
1991
1995
2001
2003
2005
2011
2015
2017
And now 2019

Ah! Normal service then! That would have been a short thread.

I can't remember hearing a see you next year or at Christmas at the end at Manchester. It could just be that with plenty scheduled already (Bon Jovi support, some random festival dates, Cardiff castle) they felt that saying you on a not announced tour seemed a little fake with all that still lined up.

The Let it Be patch might just be a reference to the song.


When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
And in my hour of darkness she is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be

Nicky lost his mum last year so.......

Keep the theories coming tho :)

This made me laugh to a disproportionate degree.

Yes, I believe they had a little arthouse project released in some of the larger cinematic venues. :lol:

May your God be with you...says that a lot...did he say that recently? I don't know, depends whether he's been on the Dave Allen DVD's...


Ah, I was just thinking exactly that as I scrolled down the thread. Could make you cry a little, that and this bottle of wine

James has just been saying have a nice summer/may your gods be with you etc. at the end of the gigs I've been at on this tour so far. I wouldn't take that to mean anything though. They've only recently got a joint mortgage out on a new studio, so I can't imagine they would have made such a big financial commitment together if they weren't going to be using the studio themselves.

Also, when they did the Absolute Radio anniversary gig last year, James mentioned wanting to have "stockpiled" three new Manics songs in the studio by Christmas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=0n6OK-Ch5Rc (it's in the last couple of minutes of the interview). He also mentions working on a soundtrack and a documentary, so I guess he's been busy with other things as well.

It's been very pleasing to see be natural getting some love on this tour,
it's always been an underrated gem for me so i feel a bit of vindication!

I noticed last night in York that the Let it Be Album wasn't present on Nicky's jacket anymore (he actually changed jackets during Born a Girl, wearing the Wire one for the second half of the show). Hopefully that means a change of heart about splitting!