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10-01-2015, 15:51
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Obscure references in JFPL lyrics
Hello all
 I've recently been listening to JFPL again and had forgotten how good it is. I ended up digging out my copy of it and re- reading the original copies of Richey's lyrics, which include lines that the manics didn't use on the album. I'm in awe of the amount of information Richey's mind must have been processing at the time to come up with lyrics like these. I apologise if this has already been done but I'm new to the forum. I was wondering if anybody had managed to decipher some of the more obscure references on the album. I'm thinking specifically of things like "Glaad occurs in the chestnut trees" and the references to Robert F Stroud on 'Peeled Apples' and the majority of 'Me and Stephen Hawking' (Spider Robot? Underground car park born at Stonehenge? Three strikes your out - execution - pizza? Did Giant Haystacks ever fight in front of 100,000 in Bombay?) Any thoughts/interpretations? 
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#2
10-01-2015, 17:53
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re.the giant haystacks reference - it has been questioned on wrestling forums and no-one on the couple I frequent knows either...
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#3
10-01-2015, 18:34
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It's a strange one. I like a bit of wrestling as well and I've never come across the Haystacks/Bombay thing before. I assume it's based on fact because I don't know what it adds to the context of the song if it's fiction. Then again, what does it add by being fact? And if it is fact, I can't imagine where Richey would have come across it.
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10-01-2015, 19:17
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#5
10-01-2015, 19:19
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/10...se-rescue.html
Seems like it could be true! Keep reading and you'll see it 
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#7
10-01-2015, 21:29
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That's the first quote I've seen where someone's sort of confirmed the Bombay line. I never quite got what Richey was getting at with that line, to be honest. I just like the fact Giant Haystacks of all people got a mention in a song.
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#8
10-01-2015, 22:51
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I was always thought the Bombay line was a continuation of the "African Punch and Judy show at half the price" one. Implying the first world taking advantage of the third. You could make the Punch and Judy show for half the price in Africa and similarly you could pack 100,000 people to watch a wrestling match in India, as presumably they wouldn't have much health and safety.
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#9
11-01-2015, 09:49
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Anyone got any ideas about the "Glaad occurs in the chestnut trees" line? It shouldn't obsess me as much as it does but it seems so impenetrable that I want to crack it
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#10
11-01-2015, 13:12
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where the answer to the chestnut trees, though not referenced, probably falls under the who knows category
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20-01-2015, 22:12
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Maybe it's a Gimmick match? Although I don't know if there's any evidence that Richey was a wrestling fan. Imagine the lyric - "100,000 watched Big Boss Man, in the Kennel from Hell"
 It's reasonable to assume he wrestled in India at some point. He wrestled for Joint Promotions for nearly 20 who had links to tours all over the place. They even had a Empire/Commonwealth Championship Belt! Unfortunately for researching, only his very short WCW run (i.e. right before he got Cancer and from 1996) is well chronicled despite being one of the most famous men in Britain for a long period of time. 
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