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02-10-2020, 20:52
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 Their version was the first I heard it. Probably first Manics single I bought. The original version is waaay to happy clappy snap yr fingers type thing despite the lyrics.
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#3077
02-10-2020, 21:04
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I dont know why there's so much dislike for Autumn song. I think its one of the best songs particularly live.
I think it encapsulates freedom. Last edited by rosetree; 02-10-2020 at 21:42.
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02-10-2020, 21:20
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02-10-2020, 21:55
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They paired door to the river with small black flowers...WHICH ONE DO I PICK ? *
*spoiler : small black flowers but it was CLOSE
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02-10-2020, 23:23
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I'm not arguing against Suicide...being a great song ...take or leave it as you please
but I do love Autumnsong....very melodic/anthemic...ok true the verse lyrics sound a bit banal....they might relate to youth/boredom/rebellion or they may reference Richey and/or there are some throwbacks to earlier lyrics (thrown in for the fans? Cos they're that kinda band...ha ha)but the chorus lifts it...simple but effective ....spring comes round again...
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03-10-2020, 11:03
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Yeah, I don't get the hate for Autumnsong, I think it's lovely.
Suicide is Painless straddles the 'angst' line with me and I have to be in a very particular mood to not just find it a bit cringey.
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03-10-2020, 13:15
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Autumn Song on its own is fine. The first live recording of it before the album released got me quite excited. The production is what buries it, the swelling strings seem to push an emotional catharsis that doesn't exist in the lyrics.
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#3083
03-10-2020, 22:59
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It’s just the main guitar riff that grates on me in Autumnsong. I think I get, and admire, what JDB was going for with it - it's like autumn leaves falling by way of a Sweet Child O’ Mine homage, but there’s something about the squealy tone+the melody that my ears just don’t really enjoy on a visceral level. I do enjoy the rest of it, including the string swells, especially the mid8 and guitar solo, weirdly enough given my issue with the main riff’s tone (so maybe it is just that melody? Or a bit of both).
I actually like some of the lyrics, but overall the words are a bit too much on the hairy side...  ... as it were.
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04-10-2020, 11:30
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Indian Summer is Design For Life on steroids.
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04-10-2020, 21:59
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Much as I've argued for it it doesn't hold a candle to Sweet Child O' Mine
Indian Summer? Outshining A Design...?! Come now Winterlovers.......for the hat trick What happened to spring
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05-10-2020, 10:30
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I listen to Indian Summer much more than I listen to A Design For Life these days. Design is amazing but it's so wrapped up in huge emotions and memories - the thrill of their return after Richey disappeared, the many many gigs where I've hollered along to it arms aloft - that it almost feels wrong to just pop it on a playlist and listen to it any old time. Indian Summer is a brilliant song with a similar feel to it, and it doesn't wallop me in the face with epic nostalgia every time I listen to it, so I'm much more likely to listen to that if I'm in the mood for a stirring Manics tune.
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#3087
05-10-2020, 10:34
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I think Borderliner was meaning Indian Summer is like Nicky was seeing 2020 when they wrote the lyrics, Covid-19 Steroid drugs? Design for Life is how it is now rather than outdoing the song. I think the whole album could be 2020 Winterlovers and Autumnsong.
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#3088
05-10-2020, 19:28
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I can sense more energy in Indian Summer but Design for Life is all about hopelessness.
I don't even think about covid, 2020 is shite even without it.
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05-10-2020, 20:29
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05-10-2020, 22:28
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