Little Baby Nothing - feminist anthem?

[franny]

Originally Posted by hummingbird

equality's great but can we keep *ladies first* ? I like not having to queue for buses and having doors opened for me is lovely too

So equality as long as you get to keep the 'perks'?
Re: Earlier on, I feel that women are more likely to be calmer and more rational than men with less to prove (obviously not always the case). Of course men and women are equal but it's always gonna be that we're slightly better at different things, women are better at ideas. IMHO

[Lone Architect]

Feminism, in the majority, is the quest for quality of opportunity. Therefore it is always relevant, all the time, and any claims it isn't are either ill informed as to what it is, or sexist.

The former is very very common as the media misrepresents feminism at every turn.

[Bathtub]

Originally Posted by franny

So equality as long as you get to keep the 'perks'?
Re: Earlier on, I feel that women are more likely to be calmer and more rational than men with less to prove (obviously not always the case). Of course men and women are equal but it's always gonna be that we're slightly better at different things, women are better at ideas. IMHO

Can you clarify what you mean by "women are better at ideas"? I know it's kind of off topic, but I'm interested to know what you mean as it's a bit vague.

[franny]

Originally Posted by Corpse In The Bathtub

Can you clarify what you mean by "women are better at ideas"? I know it's kind of off topic, but I'm interested to know what you mean as it's a bit vague.

Yeah vagueness is what I do. I just feel that generally women have more common sense and are better at management

[River Boy]

Originally Posted by hummingbird

equality's great but can we keep *ladies first* ? I like not having to queue for buses and having doors opened for me is lovely too

Exactly, sometimes change for change's sake is no good; women are still more likely to be carrying children around or wheeling prams so we shouldn't be slamming the door in their faces. Also you really don't want to trade in the 'women and children first' rule when a ship is sinking - which I think still applies if the woman is the one that gets the directions wrong and hits an iceberg.

[Bathtub]

Originally Posted by franny

Yeah vagueness is what I do. I just feel that generally women have more common sense and are better at management

Ok. I don't know about the common sense, it's hard to define, but based on my experience in a employment I'd say a definate yes to the second one.

[Lone Architect]

I'm not being arsey but shift this over to http://foreverdelayed.org.uk/forum/s...=48248&page=26

This is a really interesting subject to talk about and I think the general thread is a good place.

[Bryter Layter]

Originally Posted by Richian

Feminism is not the supremacy of one sex over the other. Those who support the supremacy of women over men are not the majority of feminists.

Absolutely! Well said!

Originally Posted by hummingbird

i didnt get from his post that the fight for equality isnt necessary ..just the burning bra men hating version of it is outdated

Ummm...that's not exactly what the feminist movement was ever about. It's a huge streotype. While there is a school of feminist thought that does indeed bash men, those ideals do not represent the majority of feminist beliefs.

Originally Posted by hummingbird

equality's great but can we keep *ladies first* ? I like not having to queue for buses and having doors opened for me is lovely too

With all due respect, are you incapable of queing for buses like everyone else or unable to open your own door?

[Bryter Layter]

Originally Posted by Lone Architect

Feminism, in the majority, is the quest for quality of opportunity. Therefore it is always relevant, all the time, and any claims it isn't are either ill informed as to what it is, or sexist.

The former is very very common as the media misrepresents feminism at every turn.

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