Album 15

[Tish]

Originally Posted by Oh Nick...!

Is it possible that this is just a song left over from TUVL, which they thought was too good to waste given the success of that album, and the new album will be completely different?

Possibly, it looks like there is going to be a few months between the release of the single and the album which suggests they may not be that connected. D&F sounds a lot like Orwellian, which I always thought didn't really fit in with the rest of TUVL, it sounded like it had been written right at the end to try and put something a bit more radio friendly on the album. Maybe D&F is the same? A big single to keep the band in the public eye before a less radio friendly album.

[rosetree]

Originally Posted by savemejebus

Their sound isn't distinct (anymore), James voice may be distinct, but their sound is whoever they've decided to be 'inspired by'. Granted it's not as bad as the Sculpture of a Man and Hazelton Avenue days but they aren't bringing anything new or distinct to the table these days

Well it's not a new thing for them to be inspired by others, they still have their own sound and TUVL, RIF, F are distinct. I play more of some tracks than others, but I dont see a problem in the experimentation, though I guess they're not going to please everyone. Maybe other bands who are influenced by the Manics would they be ok to cover songs they're inspired by, or write a solo album with inspiration for Victor Jara, in between a studio album or actually write for other genres, rather than just be established to stay the same as they are known.

[Bartek Wyre]

Originally Posted by rosetree

... they still have their own sound ...

Yeah, no, not really I mean, they have some really awesome songs, sure, but like I've said, they never developed their signature sound. They always sounded like whatever was in vogue at a given era, and sure, it's understandable, as they always wanted to reach the wider audience with their socialist manifestos (hence the last shot(s) at mass communication). But still, to say they have their own sound is a gross overstatement.

Originally Posted by rosetree

Maybe other bands who are influenced by the Manics ...

Are there any?

[Routine Builder]

Originally Posted by Bartek Wyre

But still, to say they have their own sound is a gross overstatement.

I would say the closest is from EMG to TIMT with Mike Hedges, that's the sound they're trying to emulate with Decline and Fall. The problem is they try to go bombastic with a low case 'b' which sort of defeats the point.

[Bartek Wyre]

Originally Posted by Routine Builder

I would say the closest is from EMG to TIMT with Mike Hedges

I'd say that's definitely the most consistent sound between any two albums they've released so far.

[savemejebus]

I've just heard Mamma Mia on the radio and now my brain won't stop trying to compare parts of it to Decline and Fall but I'm not going to reward that shite with another play/stream or whatever they get from youtube to check. Bloody Wednesdays