Random Manics thoughts... - Page 121 - Forever Delayed

hillgrove · #**1801** 08-06-2015, 11:21

Who is Nick Abbot.?

Finn · #**1802** 08-06-2015, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillgrove

Who is Nick Abbot.?

That was my response - so I looked up his (obviously self-penned) wiki page. Wow, he really takes himself seriously

As for new merchandise, I remember a thread of suggestions way back in 2001. I still think the inflatable MSP beach ball would be a winner - purple leopard print with one black panel that has purple text proclaiming, "Enjoy your beach ball, but remember we are all moving inexorably toward the black void of death."

hummingbird · #**1803** 08-06-2015, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finn

That was my response - so I looked up his (obviously self-penned) wiki page. Wow, he really takes himself seriously

As for new merchandise, I remember a thread of suggestions way back in 2001. I still think the inflatable MSP beach ball would be a winner - purple leopard print with one black panel that has purple text proclaiming, "Enjoy your beach ball, but remember we are all moving inexorably toward the black void of death."

That sounds amazing .... I want one

gracie · #**1804** 08-06-2015, 17:25

We should get unofficial ones made, that sounds cool as fuck.

Automatik · #**1805** 08-06-2015, 18:22

Even after all these years, whenever I check back through the band's discography I'm still amazed at some of the songs they put out as singles (and which b-sides never make it to albums, and which album tracks do), especially since TIMTTMY.

Exhibit A: The Everlasting. (Surely Ready For Drowning or Nobody Loved You - which actually was a single in Japan - would have been better?)

Exhibit B: Found That Soul.

Exhibit C: So Why So Sad.

Exhibit D: The Love Of Richard Nixon.

Exhibit E: Autumnsong...

...etc etc.

Europa Geht Durch Mich wasn't even released as a single! Unfathomable.

Sorry - just needed to get that out of my system, given how important the band consider singles to be.

Finn · #**1806** 08-06-2015, 18:45

Some of the lead single choices just boggle the mind.

UEF · #**1807** 08-06-2015, 18:50

I was thinking about this today up to This is My Truth they seemed to pick the right singles

Geranium Terrorists · #**1808** 08-06-2015, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automatik

Exhibit B: Found That Soul.

???

Automatik · #**1809** 08-06-2015, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finn

Some of the lead single choices just boggle the mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UEF

I was thinking about this today up to This is My Truth they seemed to pick the right singles

Something seemed to shift after TIMTTMY. (Incidentally, I always found it odd that Masses Against The Classes was a great single but - bizarrely - wasn't included on KYE.)

Since TIMTTMY the only singles that I feel were truly stand-out worthy of being selected as singles from their respective albums were Ocean Spray, Indian Summer, (It's Not War) Just The End Of Love and Walk Me To The Bridge - four out of twenty (or out of eighteen if we exclude Underdogs and Ghost of Christmas).

Automatik · #**1810** 08-06-2015, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geranium Terrorists

???

Controversial, I know. Found That Soul is a fine song but in my opinion hardly comparable in quality to most of the singles that went before it.

Geranium Terrorists · #**1811** 08-06-2015, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automatik

Controversial, I know. Found That Soul is a fine song but in my opinion hardly comparable in quality to most of the singles that went before it.

True... definitely agree on SWSS. Though they were still very successful!

Automatik · #**1812** 08-06-2015, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geranium Terrorists

True... definitely agree on SWSS. Though they were still very successful!

They were - indeed, FTS (highest British chart position: 9) and SWSS (highest: 8) charted higher than The Everlasting (11) and Tsunami (11). The Love Of Richard Nixon reached number 2, as did Your Love Alone.

I recall Nicky saying Indian Summer - which I love, by the way! - was chosen as a single solely because it sounded like ADFL. It reached number 22.

Of course, all this grumbling raises an interesting question: which tracks should have been chosen as singles after TIMTTMY? I've already proposed Europa Geht Durch Mich (the most obvious candidate, I would have thought) - but which others?

Son of Stopped · #**1813** 08-06-2015, 22:19

I love "So Why So Sad" as I feel it was the last great Christmas single we never had before Cowell's Clowns kept taking the spot.
"Baby Elian" would have been an interesting single but would have burnt their fingers even more than the Cuba trip!

"1985" should have been the lead single.
No problem with YLAINE or even "Underdogs" th
Even INWJTEOL was a good pop-rock piece.
I think it's only SMTW that could have been a better choice.

hummingbird · #**1814** 08-06-2015, 22:48

SWSS and FTS were the first singles off KYE that's why they charted top 10

MoMoney MoJunk · #**1815** 08-06-2015, 23:56

Found That Soul is amazing (I voted it number 1 in the Manics Chart recently too!). So Why So Sad was an odd choice I always thought, but KYE is a very odd album. There aren't too many natural singles actually when you think about it.

1985 should have been the lead single from Lifeblood. Or at least a single.

Imperial Bodybags would have been a great single from SATT. But I think Your Love Alone was a good choice for lead.

It's Not War is pretty naff. The video was kinda cool though. It's the only album I dislike, but Postcards From a Young Man itself is a fantastic song.

30 Year War could have been great for RTF, but I guess it isn't a good reflection on the album as a whole... but then neither is Show Me The Wonder! But still, no complaints there.

I agree about Europa Geht Durch Mich - should have been lead single. It's just so good.