KYE revisited

[Dac X Lee]

Originally Posted by Bobafettish

I met someone in a pun the other day who claimed his favourite manics track is My Guernica, so there you go.

Interesting. It's definitely not the song you'd expect to be the favourite of a random person.

[triangular]

It's their White Album. A complete mess that nearly ended the band, but all the better for it.

[Scarecrow]

I listened to this recently. I really wish they'd made it a shorter album of the raw rock songs and stuck the other stuff on an EP or something. Imagine an album of Found That Soul, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs etc. That'd be a belter, on CD and live.

[db26]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

I listened to this recently. I really wish they'd made it a shorter album of the raw rock songs and stuck the other stuff on an EP or something. Imagine an album of Found That Soul, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs etc. That'd be a belter, on CD and live.

Can't decide whether I agree or not with this. I've often thought the same but the more I think about it, the more I love the album for the fact it's a bit of a mess. I have to admit I do love the middle section though - dead martyrs through to the convalescent. Can't immediately think of a better run of tracks on a manics album actually.

[tomd2103]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

I listened to this recently. I really wish they'd made it a shorter album of the raw rock songs and stuck the other stuff on an EP or something. Imagine an album of Found That Soul, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs etc. That'd be a belter, on CD and live.

Totally agree and it would have followed on from well from Masses. After the success of the previous two albums and the Millennium Stadium gig, it could have been a chance for a back to basics, post punk album, not too dissimilar to Journal. The tantalising thing for me is that album is already there within KYE.

[sculptureofabloke]

Originally Posted by triangular

It's their White Album. A complete mess that nearly ended the band, but all the better for it.

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

I listened to this recently. I really wish they'd made it a shorter album of the raw rock songs and stuck the other stuff on an EP or something. Imagine an album of Found That Soul, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs etc. That'd be a belter, on CD and live.

Between the album and its b-sides I'm sure there probably is two quite coherent albums in there but I love it for its mess. I can quite vividly remember my early listens of Know Your Enemy and finding it very fresh at the time, wasn't sure where they were going or what they were doing but I loved it anyway. Come to think of it, as much as a mess as it's widely recognised to be, I don't ever remember listening to it and thinking hmm this isn't flowing right. Kinda reminds me a bit of Wild Mood Swings by The Cure, from what I've read that album was supposed to be disjointed, it was about as far from The Cure by numbers as you can get, it's poppy, it's bleak, it's poppy, it's bleak. I don't know if Know Your Enemy is some kind of designer directionless piece, but it kinda just falls together for me, would like to see em do more of it live, they've only done five songs off it in 12 years. Sods.

[tomd2103]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

The story goes that it was intended to be a double album but they bottled it. My main gripe with the mess of it is that the band think no one likes it because it's all over the place, and therefore they won't touch the gems. Remember the Blackburn gig, James said "See, even our own fans don't know this album".

I'd love them to do a reworked live version version of So Why So Sad, without the Beach Boys element to it. Super Furry Animals did it with a couple of their songs (Northern Lites being one) and it worked well.

[Geranium Terrorists]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

I like So Why So Sad, but imagine a live version with loud guitars, no backing vocals, and the stylophone part done with noise. MMM.

That'd be fucking amazing!

[tomd2103]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

I like So Why So Sad, but imagine a live version with loud guitars, no backing vocals, and the stylophone part done with noise. MMM.

Yeah was thinking of something along those lines. On a recent browse of Youtube I came across someone doing an acoustic cover of SWSS and although it was a little patchy, it gave a really different feel than the recorded version.

[Mr Richey]

Hmmm...I might just have a crack at that.

[tzb]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

I like So Why So Sad, but imagine a live version with loud guitars, no backing vocals, and the stylophone part done with noise. MMM.

They already had a go at that. It didn't end well.

[AK47]

Still a great album.

[dolphin]

I really love the album, So Why So Sad included, although I might swap a few tracks for one or two b sides. The White Album analogy isn't a bad one and the album is all the better for its length and diversity.

[clash750]

Wasn't to keen on KYE when first released but as the years have went by grown to love it now. 'Royal Correspondant' totally underrated one of my favourite manics songs.

[db26]

Originally Posted by clash750

Wasn't to keen on KYE when first released but as the years have went by grown to love it now. 'Royal Correspondant' totally underrated one of my favourite manics songs.

Real marmite song. I either love it or loath it depending on my mood.