Random Manics thoughts...

[Dancing Kirby]

This week I can finally listen to disc 2 of SATT10 from start to finish without having to skip track 3.

[taxexile]

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/...for-its-money/

[Automatik]

Enjoyed having Ghost Of Christmas on all the time the last three weeks. Fantastic Christmas song.

[taxexile]

Tony Visconti: ‘The thing with Phil Lynott was that he was visibly dying’

Albini the control freak

Visconti is one of music’s greatest producers – a little bit like a 1970s equivalent of George Martin thanks to his work with Bowie, Marc Bolan, The Moody Blues and Sparks. The American producer and musician Steve Albini has repeatedly said over the years that he prefers to call himself a recording engineer. “When I think of a producer, I think of one of those industry losers with a beard and a ponytail sitting in a chair telling the band what to do,” Albini once said.

“Well, I know people who have worked with Steve Albini and he is the biggest control freak I’ve ever heard of,” Visconti responds. “He says one thing and he does another. His whole philosophy is based on working with groups, so sure, he’ll let them play and he records them, but I’ve heard from people in Nirvana and Foo Fighters who said he constantly told them what to do. I would dismiss anything Steve Albini says and I’d challenge him face to face on that any time, anywhere.”

[still_unfashionable]

I am always late but I would still like to extend my late birthday wishes to Nicky. Hope he had a great day.

[UEF]

International Blue is the most Queen track they’ve ever made

[Dac X Lee]

It was snowing a few days ago. I was listening to 4st 7lb while walking in the snow. ...and leaving footprints.

[Automatik]

Originally Posted by Dac X Lee

It was snowing a few days ago. I was listening to 4st 7lb while walking in the snow. ...and leaving footprints.

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

[Automatik]

The EMG survivor poll reminds of how cheated I generally feel by covers, in comparison to new material (i.e. b-sides).

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of decent covers (Red Sleeping Beauty, We Are All Bourgeois Now, The Drowners, Wrote For Luck...) but do people really want covers ahead of new songs?

[Suicide Aldi]

Im nit fond of covers either.

[sculptureofabloke]

Very rarely listen to Masses with it not being on a standard studio album. Grabbed one of me copies of Know Your Enemy to stick on, ended up being the Australian one with it on and hearing it now has reminded me of how I felt first time hearing it.

Is it just me or is that "A slave begins be demanding justice, ends by wanting to wear a crown" line a bit Daily Mail? I know it's Camus, but they've used it to end a song called The Masses Against The Classes. Today, it makes me think of some of the attitudes people have towards victims. We read it all with Yewtree, we're seeing it with Weinstein etc, alleged victims are only coming forward for the attention. The victim is undermined to the extent that people are more focussed on their motives for coming forward now (why not then?), than on what the alleged perpetrators are supposed to have done. Do the survivors of Grenfell, the families of Hillsborough etc deserve compensation? - fine, we'll accept responsibility, but don't push it.

"A slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown" is something I could imagine Katie Hopkins saying, if she were eloquent enough.

[ata]

Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke

Is it just me or is that "A slave begins be demanding justice, ends by wanting to wear a crown" line a bit Daily Mail?

Taken out of its context, why not.

The whole quote is :

Originally Posted by Albert Camus

“The rebel defies more than he denies. Originally, at least, he does not suppress God; he merely talks to Him as an equal.
But it is not a polite dialogue. It is a polemic animated by the desire to conquer. The slave begins by demanding justice and ends by wanting to wear a crown. He must dominate in his turn. His insurrection against his condition becomes an unlimited campaign against the heavens for the purpose of bringing back a captive king who will first be dethroned and finally condemned to death. Human rebellion ends in metaphysical revolution. It progresses from appearances to acts, from the dandy to the revolutionary.
When the throne of God is overturned, the rebel realizes that it is now his own responsibility to create the justice, order, and unity that he sought in vain within his own condition, and in this way to justify the fall of God. Then begins the desperate effort to create, at the price of crime and murder if necessary, the dominion of man.”

So, different meaning imo.

[Son of Stopped]

Tomorrow is a poetry night with the theme of "My Queen". Got my pieces ready. They were looking for songs for the playlist.
"REPEAT" ah, first thought! But it's a public place etc.
"WE HER MAJESTY'S PRISONERS" ah, again that "Ceremonial rape machine" bit might be offensive to some women there.
So it's "Royal Correspondent" that managed to make it into the playlist.
Every month I try and get a Manics song selected. Every. Month.
Finally broke through! And for a bonus I got Queen's "March Of The Black Queen" AND "Kings And Queens" by Soft Machine as well. Three song choices of mine made it to the playlist! Probably isn't going to happen again for a million years.
(And even more off-topic, whereas most music is built around the drums, "Kings And Queens" is built around a bassline as Robert Wyatt and company melt around it. Jazz Rock is awesome you guys!!!)

[Marconi Delorian]

Originally Posted by ata

Taken out of its context, why not.

The whole quote is :



So, different meaning imo.

I believe it was referring to themselves - starting out as rebels/outsiders and then becoming 'establishment' at the time of TIMT.

[UEF]

Originally Posted by Automatik

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

You know it's "I", right?