Steve Albini To Produce Next Album? - Page 2 - Forever Delayed

Dancing Kirby · #16 19-12-2007, 12:06

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Originally Posted by adore failure

yeah but they always say these sorts of things and nothing ever comes of it.

Yes, the idea of Steve Albini producing the Manics' own Quadrophenia is an exciting one, but so was the prospect of SATT sounding 'like GNR playing The White Album'.

One thing is certain, if they had let Albini loose on Underdogs even he wouldn't have been able to butcher it quite as spectacularly as Lord-Alge did.

tzb · #17 19-12-2007, 12:34

I think it's a great prospect, chances are Albini would draw some of their rockier sound out of them anyway regardless of Nicky's Quadrophenia reference. I get the impression he's pushed that same 60s/70s town hall sound since EMG, and past that album it only rears its head on b-sides and IKTZ

Look what happened with Visconti on Lifeblood, you think we'd have had tracks like Always/Never if he'd not been at the helm? I think they play to their producers strengths (if the producer has any: see below) and I think they're astute enough to know Albini's strength is raw, driven rock music

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Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

One thing is certain, if they had let Albini loose on Underdogs even he wouldn't have been able to butcher it quite as spectacularly as Lord-Alge did.

Amen to that

deadmartyr · #18 19-12-2007, 13:26

I'm just glad we're already hearing official talk about the next album, and a late 2008/early 2009 release as suggested sounds about right, and an appealing wait time as well.

Nice to see the news on the first page of the main Planet Sound news as well.

Cuppa · #19 19-12-2007, 13:53

Just wondering something... who produced know your enemy because I listened to it from beginning to end for the first time the other day and it sounds completely different other manic street preachers albums. The vocals sound like they were recorded from really far away on some of the songs and the drums sound weird.

I'm never clever enough to know anything about producers. Sorry if I sound really ignorant and stupid.

Amanda197 · #20 19-12-2007, 13:59

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Originally Posted by deadmartyr

I'm just glad we're already hearing official talk about the next album, and a late 2008/early 2009 release as suggested sounds about right, and an appealing wait time as well.

Nice to see the news on the first page of the main Planet Sound news as well.

I'll second this!

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Just wondering something... who produced know your enemy because I listened to it from beginning to end for the first time the other day and it sounds completely different other manic street preachers albums. The vocals sound like they were recorded from really far away on some of the songs and the drums sound weird.

I'm never clever enough to know anything about producers. Sorry if I sound really ignorant and stupid.

No you don't sound stupid at all!

I may be wrong but I think it's Dave Eringa.

Grant · #21 19-12-2007, 14:11

This is all sounding very positive. Most of my favourite bands are finished, so it's always great when the manics are in the spotlight

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Cuppa · #22 19-12-2007, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Amanda197

No you don't sound stupid at all!

I may be wrong but I think it's Dave Eringa.

Cheers... yeah it probably is him. But then again it looks like he's produced loads of manic street preachers albums so if there's anything weird about it - it's nothing to do with him.

I dunno... am I the only person who thinks know your enemy sounds really weird? Ocean spray is fine.. most of the rest of it seems more erm... distant and jangly?

screamingsoul · #23 19-12-2007, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Cuppa

Cheers... yeah it probably is him. But then again it looks like he's produced loads of manic street preachers albums so if there's anything weird about it - it's nothing to do with him.

I dunno... am I the only person who thinks know your enemy sounds really weird? Ocean spray is fine.. most of the rest of it seems more erm... distant and jangly?

Yes it is Eringa basically doing what the manics told him to do which was deliberately make KYE less polished and more lo-fi.

Excited about talk of a new album sounds like they might be slightly more adventurous this time too.

Tish · #24 19-12-2007, 14:33

"I dunno... am I the only person who thinks know your enemy sounds really weird? Ocean spray is fine.. most of the rest of it seems more erm... distant and jangly?[/QUOTE]"

I think most of it sounds like it was done in one take with hardly any mixes (apart from So Why So Sad and Ocean Spray). I've always assumed it was meant to sound like that as a deliberate move away from the super produced slickness of This is My Truth.

Marconi Delorian · #25 19-12-2007, 17:21

The question that needs to be asked is 'Will Albini consent to work with the manics'?

BloodFlowerBill · #26 19-12-2007, 18:05

Its like a contradiction, if you get Albini in your obviously going for something rawer, stripped back more vital than SATT basically, so when Wire says he wants him to make it sound big he's kind of contradicting himself.

If they allow him just to do his thing, Albini could be the ideal producer for the Manics, someone to strip away all the commercial sheen of the last album.

Cuppa · #27 19-12-2007, 18:08

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Originally Posted by BloodFlowerBill

Its like a contradiction, if you get Albini in your obviously going for something rawer, stripped back more vital than SATT basically, so when Wire says he wants him to make it sound big he's kind of contradicting himself.

If they allow him just to do his thing, Albini could be the ideal producer for the Manics, someone to strip away all the commercial sheen of the last album.

Therefore sounding more like generation terrorists?!

*crosses fingers*

Fuzzy Child · #28 19-12-2007, 18:09

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Therefore sounding more like generation terrorists?!

*crosses fingers*

GT but iwth less songs and better production. the production on GT is dreadful.

darkanddivine · #29 19-12-2007, 18:26

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Therefore sounding more like generation terrorists?!

*crosses fingers*

Not really Generation Terrorists attempts to sound like an expensive album with very glossy production. If they were to work with Albini, I'd imagin is sounding similar to Close My Eyes type stuff but even rawer than that.

Angel Eyed Boy · #30 19-12-2007, 18:50

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Originally Posted by TheSilentMan

Urgh, I hate it when people use his talents for the wrong reasons. Albini is best when he's making things sound raw, gritty, dirty and noisy. See: Oxbow, Big Black, Neurosis, Jesus Lizard, Whitehouse, Made out of Babies...

...and Mclusky.

If it does work out I think it could sound fucking awesome. If it doesn't it'll sound like a pile of crap. Not unlike every other recording session ever, really...