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I still love lots from the SATT era, but that love alone is not enough, and the album itself hasn't held up all that well for me (relatively speaking anyway - I don't even so much as mildly dislike any of the Manics' albums).
I think the b-sides were quite variable in quality... but I think Welcome To The Dead Zone and The Vorticists are probably amongst my favourites of any era of the band. Overall though, I'm glad it exists, and I think it (or its success, or both) seemed to have a very positive effect upon the band. Although the Underdogs edit still really grates... Th-!
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Why the hate for Autumnsong? It's not as bad as some people say. The same goes for that cut in Underdogs..it sounds like if you stopped a cassette in your old walkman. It's actually quite cool effect!
*bait*
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awww I fell in love with the Manics after SATT, it was around SATT release when I first heard about them. I feel kind of sentimental now, especially tomorrow's Nicky's birthday, and Richey Day is coming as well as my small Me As A Manics Fan 4th anniversary soon after.
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Yes it is. Worse perhaps.
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Autumnsong will never be the worst thing on an album that includes Underdogs.
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The mix-mistake in Underdogs is really really bad because the song is great! The whole mix is bad btw. it sounded better when published as a preview but there are some beeps in it
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True, but Underdogs never gets played live (thank Christ)
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nooo it was great live it's shame it was dropped so early...
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I got the impression of reinvigoration in the band when I first heard Your Love Alone and really liked it. Remember BRMC's Weapon of Choice and 666 Conducer airing around the same day actually, repeating all three songs for a while on the day.
I felt the album was good at the time, but I have little desire to listen to all of it now, but I will still listen in full now and then. Indian Summer is the best thing about the album for me and I think it's a great, underrated song. The title track is great, and Second Great Depression's good too, but that's about it really. The aspects of the band that I love so much are lacking too much, sounding like a nondescript rock band. Great range of b-sides for the first two singles though, some that should stay in the b-side realm and a few that would've made the album more interesting.
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Jesus 5 years? That's insane. It reminds me of sitting in our absolute shit student house, listening to it on my housmate's crappy portable CD player (we had no laptops or net in that gaff!) in the living room whilst trying to revise for an American politics exam. (it was released in May that year wasn't it?) First memory that comes to mind anyway. I only saw the Manics once that era at a festival, I hadn't found this place and I was too busy going a bit mad. I'm sensible now compared to those days. Fuck those were the days! Being a student waster and hosting magnificient house parties.
So not too many memories associated with SATT.... I did like it initially at the time ok, despite there being lots of shit filler but have listened to it less and less over the years. One of my lesser faves now. but at least my friends knew the single (YLAINE), unlike the dark years of Lifeblood where noone knew or cared.... Also i really like the name Send Away The Tigers. I think it's a great album title. Plus it sounds like FD was pretty fun around the time of SATT from what I've seen of old threads. and it turned a lot of people into fans. i just wasn't net savvy in those days! |
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for ever and ever, AMEN.
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why everyone hate Underdogs? this song is for us....
anyway.... wow five years? how time goes by... *going to listen to SATT* |
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The era was great. The band were on a crest of a wave, their live performances were full of verve and life. SATT itself is not particularly a great record as it happens, lots of bluster and pomp, but terrible lyrics and not much substance. That said the title track is fucking awesome, and despite it's critics I love the swing and massiveness of Indian Summer. Rendition reminded me that they could be a rock band again, and I'm happy enough with its imperfections. I stick those songs mentioned now and again, and fondly remember the aforementioned wave as it was a lot of fun to hear their songs on the radio, and generally a positive feel coming from the band too.
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Because the music is lazy and the lyrics are dire.
Speak for yourself love.
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