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Generation Terrorists 6 5.17%
Gold Against The Soul 22 18.97%
The Holy Bible 0 0%
Everything Must Go 0 0%
This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours 5 4.31%
Know Your Enemy 17 14.66%
Lifeblood 48 41.38%
Send Away The Tigers 2 1.72%
Journal For Plague Lovers 9 7.76%
Postcards From A Young Man 7 6.03%
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Old 16-07-2011, 23:22
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The problem with Lifeblood is that the Manics never sound like the Manics did/do. And they really, really didn't with Lifeblood.

But I fucking adore that album. Lyrically lamented mid-tempo melancholy and cynical crooners in a bleak, cold sound that one didn't really expect. It's archetype-Manics but then not.
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Old 16-07-2011, 23:24
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The problem with Lifeblood is that the Manics never sound like the Manics did/do. And they really, really didn't with Lifeblood.
Agreed. If any other band had made that album, it might not have been seen as such a failure. The fact it sounds nothing like the Manics and doesn't even feel like the Manics is what turns a lot of fans off, I reckon.
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PS., can someone hurry up and do a "most over-rated Manics album" poll, please? the fights on that one are going to be excellent.
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Old 16-07-2011, 23:25
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So it's farily well accepted that exactly half of GATS is shit, right? Lifeblood is probably just over half shit. The good songs are 1985, A Song For Departure, I Live To Fall Asleep, To Repel Ghosts and Solitude Sometimes Is. The rest is basically dire... so I don't see why it's winning this thread.
No, GATS is 100% shit...none of this "half" business.

I guess if you truly don't like a record, it's hard to understand why others would. I mean, who doesn't know of at least one album where the mere mention of it makes you cringe yet others hail it as a masterpeice?
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I guess if you truly don't like a record, it's hard to understand why others would. I mean, who doesn't know of at least one album where the mere mention of it makes you cringe yet others hail it as a masterpeice?


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Old 16-07-2011, 23:29
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From GATS, I'd say these are the winners: "Sleepflower", "From Despair To Where", "Scream To A Sigh", "Yourself" and "Life Becoming A Landslide".
Same for me, although I'd add Roses In The Hospital to the list. The recorded version isn't brilliant, but its always sounded good live.


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For my money, there's only 5 songs on Lifeblood you ever need to listen to: "1985", "To Repel Ghosts", "Always/Never", "Solitude Sometimes Is" and "Fragments". There are some great b-sides from that era, of course.
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See what I'm saying about Liefblood? There really is no consensus.

Did I spell that correctly?
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There really is no consensus.

Did I spell that correctly?
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Edit: Ooops. You did. But then I could've just saved it with a "no, you spelled it 'consensus'" joke. Oh well.
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Edit: Ooops. You did. But then I could've just saved it with a "no, you spelled it 'consensus'" joke. Oh well.
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Best five GATS for me are Sleepflower, La Tristessa Durera, Roses In The Hospital and Nostalgic Pushead and From Despair To Where.
There are at least Life Becoming A Landslide, Symphony Of Tourette and on a good day Drug Drug Druggy fight it out for 6th place.

Is GATS the closest the Richey Manics got to a scaled down PFAYM? It mass communicates more than the Seattle bands did.
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Depends which Seattle band you're talking about.
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GATS is better than anything the band have done post EMG. And that is the end of the matter.
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I like the randomness of KYE, its all over the place but that's part of its charm for me. Lifeblood is also very under-rated, maybe in 15-20 years time it will get the recognition it deserves.
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I'm sitting here going 'No. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! NO!!!!' at these comments. Apart from the positive ones of course! For me Lifeblood DOES sound like the Manics just that they're doing something different with their sound.
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