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27-09-2010, 19:48
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27-09-2010, 20:52
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James played Richey a cassette tape demo of Small Black Flowers just acoustic. The documentary interviews on the Anniversary edition of Everything Must Go shed some light on this issue. James spoke of Richey's quest for "Screamadelica played by Pantera and how that was "just Nine Inch Nails". Given that Kevin Carter was apparently sounding a bit salsa I suspect that's the direction James was really wanting to push into ie. more melody. If they had've followed up the Holy Bible with the Holy Bible II, the same screeching guitars, twisted verses and overall In Utero sound you probably wouldn't have heard of the Manics today. I can't understand this "I'm not happy with the sound of X-album" stuff. Quote:
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I think there's some of the original demo left on the final version of No Surface isn't there?
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27-09-2010, 21:15
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27-09-2010, 23:39
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But I suppose that without access to the demos they had done before Richey disappeared, there's just no way of knowing for sure how his disappearance truly affected James and Sean's song-writing, or if that really is the direction they were already headed.
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INteresting thread. I like to read all this sort of stuff. I think with the internet revolution having occurred post 1996, then we are piecing together some of this.
Had we had a forum such as this back in 1995 or 1996 then the discussions would have been made around the time of the album's release and indeed more magazine, TV and radio interviews would have been posted by forum members giving more details on each song. To me, EMG is a great album, but doesnt actually fit together as an "album", its almost like a collection of songs from a period of 4 - 5 years all stuck together. The stark contrast from something as uplifting as Australia (good enough once upon a time to be played on Match of The day when great goals went in...) compared with the dreamlike delusion of Further Away (which by the way is a great song in my opinion). Weakest song on the album is either Elvis Impersonator or EMG itself (a throwaway pop song) in my opinion. Richey would have hated A Design For Life I reckon, ironic given that is is possibly the bands biggest selling single (pretty sure it sold more than Tolerate and Masses ATC). Apart from Journal For Plague Lovers, which other post - EMG songs are attributed in some way to Richey? (i.e. he wrote some of the lyric)
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So there was a chance that some Journal For Plague Lovers lyrics could have ended up on Everything Must Go or vice versa.
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Might be off on a slight tangent but I think lyrics like Jackie Collins & Stephen Hawking inspired Wire. Things like Rendition & Patsy, Entertainment & Don't Be Evil utilise the same irony laced tone.
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Also Nicky's stated outright that in SATT (the song) he was using Richey's super-wordy style, so he's probably influenced in other ways too.
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