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Why don't I read the damn thing myself? Well, I could say I'm taking the noble stand and going nowhere near it or I could be more truthful and say I literally can't get near a copy. It's either had a very limited distribution or there's still some uncertainty over the pub date as it's only made it to a handful of Waterstones and Amazon saying 1-2 months means they've no copies in stock which is bizarre for the Satan that is Amazon they usually get everything Quote:
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I haven't read it though. I do have a suspicion that she can't just let Richey speak but has a need to interpret as if we dear readers may not otherwise understand or may criticise him failing to recognise that her clumsiness is actually resulting in the very thing she wants to avoid. Personally my own attraction to him and the band was his intellect and his insights. It was all about his lyrics. I'm finding the resulting fallout of this book around antisemitism including the bizarre ideas that Richey donned pyjamas in some crude nod to holocaust victims (not your interpretation Bryter I know I'm just speaking generally now) completely abhorrent and more upsetting than other aspects of this book as it seems to be a complete misreading of all he was and all he believed in. Sure he was vain, sure in his attitude to relationships he was, well, immature it seems but I don't know if that's quite fair, he was so analytical it seems nothing escaped it not even his relations with others....I can see where the autism ideas may have seeped in to be considered but I'm not sure if that's what lay behind it not really....Sure he had a plan mapped out for the band that...well I've read through interviews with the band could prove a little exasperating...understandably but nothing to justify the denigration they're receiving in this book. His was a rare intellect that could be difficult to put to music but doesn't need the writer of the book to explain nor readers to try and hammer it down ...like a nail...I am sorry....I've had a drink or so on this Friday evening. Stream of consiousness I should stay away from the book Which isn't proving hard with its unavailability. Irony Quote:
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Wasn't Richey's suicide attempt public knowledge already? Pretty sure Nick or James mentioned it at some point.
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there was some ambiguity about it. i thought he did but didn't know the specifics. more importantly i didn't need to know the specifics.
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Not sure what the book says, but I'm pretty sure even the specifics were already out there (perhaps in Everything), I have something in my head about him being found in his flat after a day or two without communication (I won't go into further detail for fear of triggering). I'm not sure how it's discussed in the book mind you, I'm pretty much against pornographic descriptions of self harm.
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This book is so badly written its rediculouse. Have left a scathing review on amazon.
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Does anyone have an ePub or mobi copy that they are willing to share?
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That’s horrendous, voyaristic at best.
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Ah well, I have ordered a used copy so I can join in an enlightened conversation. I will definitely leave a detailed review!
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The assumption that Richey wearing those PJs to look like a concentration camp victim is not a new one though. That's been around since the 90s. I don't think he ever disclosed to anyone why he was wearing pajamas and the book doesn't give much insight either. The anecdote about Rob Stringer is pretty much a non-event and I'm not sure why it was included except to show how the big bad record company was treating this suffering genius so appallingly. In fact, Rob Stringer probably fairs the worst in this book. He's really made out to be a money hungry prick. I think they may have a had a limited stock. You should just get a digital copy. Quote:
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I just want to say that as a fan of the band and in admiration of Richey, I am glad that I have contributed to this thread, although I haven't bought the book yet. I don't believe in silencing opinion.
I don't claim to understand Richey's intellect, but I know he didn't inflict harm to others, in that he self-abused, though causing pain to those who worried for him. Probably a lot of what he did was a form of self abuse. I don't want to insult his memory or suggest he wasn't aware of how his pyjamas were seen, or anything regarding his sentiment, though most of the comments in the thread state the authors blame the band mostly for his problems, though why just the band? as everything isn't black and white or clearly evident. In publishing his medical reports, the Information Acts concerning disclosure include intricacies that should really be enough reason not to misuse for any purpose. If there was a lawful concern though about the book, than slating the band perhaps it should include investigation about Richey. If I had bought the book already, I would pass it on after reading, though I hope the book does reach the intentions of it's purpose. Last edited by rosetree; 17-03-2019 at 23:36. |
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I have now received a copy of the book. I was compelled to read it as it has been some huge topic here and I read all books on him anyway. Before I take any view to Richey appearing anti sematic, I thought he had written about the holocaust before. He and Nickey even wrote liner notes about each song in a newspaper ad. One of the band members said that visiting the concentration camps while on tour was so harrowing especially given the fact there were no sounds. During his last interview when he showed up in pajamas and shaved head that is what I actually thought he was doing...looking like a surviver. I hope I am right in seeing that Richey was so unwell that he was practically screaming to be noticed by looking like one in a concentration camp. I never thought he was being anti-semetic at all. Wasn't he a student of modern Germany and USRR study? I thought his demeanor was symbolic of his suffering? my own opinion.
James, the more cagey between what had happened with Richey than Nickey or Sean, told an interviewer on camera that when Richey went to hospital, it was for an attempted suicide which was a well documented fact... I have a pretty good memory but have yet to see the interview again. I know i think it was around JFPL. He was standing outside against a rail or something and the interviewer was off camera. I remember all this because James was furious when Price wrote insinuated this in his book. So When James did reveal this for the very first time I saw it, I came right to the forum to see if anyone was talking about it but found nothing. I will have more to say once I read the book. take a firm stance on anyone blaming others for suicide's fault. Even if it is easier to place blame on someone, the manics did not force him to do whatever he did. especially given the fact that Richey was a 27 year old man. Off my rant and will now start reading the book. Last edited by vaiden; 30-03-2019 at 21:32. Reason: Terrible grammar and poorly written |
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can any one tell me what a health farm is? a spa?a retreat? I remember Price quoted James when saying something about Richey crying after each tour and had to be sent to a health farm for a bit. Does anyone know what a health farm is
If he was crying a lot and couldn't explain frequent crying I have a verge of thinking Richey was was well on his way to his attempted suicide? |
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