Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum  

Go Back   Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum > Manic Street Preachers > Manic Street Preachers Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 23-07-2014, 13:07
Abstract Unknown Girl's Avatar
Abstract Unknown Girl Abstract Unknown Girl is offline
Bored out of my mind
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Beyond the sky, on the other side of the rain
Age: 38
Posts: 40,409
Quote:
Originally Posted by UEF View Post
The credits list only Green as having done backing vocals...
I don't mean the backing vocals. I meant the aaaaah aaaaah aaaah's leading into the chorus. That is James.

Last edited by Abstract Unknown Girl; 23-07-2014 at 13:24.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 25-07-2014, 15:29
amaitheanhorn's Avatar
amaitheanhorn amaitheanhorn is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Wales
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel View Post
When I first read your post I was like, "Wtf, how does that sound like Stewie?!". Since then, every time the song comes on I crack up when I hear the "I'm well aware of hapinessss" opening line!

I can't unhear this now, but I thank you for bringing a bit of comedy to my listening experience of the track!
Haha so glad it isn't just me who hears Stewie in that line
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 25-07-2014, 15:33
amaitheanhorn's Avatar
amaitheanhorn amaitheanhorn is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Wales
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abstract Unknown Girl View Post
I don't mean the backing vocals. I meant the aaaaah aaaaah aaaah's leading into the chorus. That is James.
Someone really needs to sit James down and explain why the whole ahhh ahhh ahhh thing is unacceptable. He can't resist it.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 25-07-2014, 16:07
Europa Gluten Free's Avatar
Europa Gluten Free Europa Gluten Free is offline
I live to fall asleep
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,543
Quote:
Originally Posted by savemejebus View Post
The rumour at the time (prior to and around the time of if you tolerate this's release and that went around the manics fan convention in London in the summer of 98) was that Black Holes for The Young was supposed to be an album track but Sophie Ellis Bextor went blabbing to all and sundry about it and the band or the record company got annoyed and decided to pull the track.

According to Nicky Prologue to History was meant to be on the album but he decided to pull it in order to make the album have 13 songs. He said it was something to do with breaking a jinx/making a point that they could have hit album with 13 songs despite the holy bible having flopped with 13 songs.

I don't think anyone actually asked why he didn't just pull born a girl...

The Black Holes story should probably be taken with a pinch of salt but it could have happened as there was quite a lot of hype at the time about it and some said that she was trying to use the hype to help 'TheAudience' rather than the manics. Of course the supposed story behind prologue would make that less likely with regard to Nicky wanting 13 songs.
Possible fire to this theory surrounding pulling Black Holes is the fact when they talk about duets they NEVER mention this song of Sophie Ellis Bextor.

On a side side note I wouldn't mind hearing them due LBN again in future tours.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 25-07-2014, 16:37
amaitheanhorn's Avatar
amaitheanhorn amaitheanhorn is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Wales
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by Europa Gluten Free View Post
Possible fire to this theory surrounding pulling Black Holes is the fact when they talk about duets they NEVER mention this song of Sophie Ellis Bextor.

On a side side note I wouldn't mind hearing them due LBN again in future tours.
If I'd decided to do a duet with Sophie Ellis Bextor I would never speak of it either.
(Not that it's a bag song, just because... well... Sophie Ellis Bextor.)

Last edited by amaitheanhorn; 25-07-2014 at 16:44.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 25-07-2014, 18:54
hummingbird's Avatar
hummingbird hummingbird is offline
Builder of routine
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: in a quiet corner
Posts: 19,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by amaitheanhorn View Post
If I'd decided to do a duet with Sophie Ellis Bextor I would never speak of it either.
(Not that it's a bag song, just because... well... Sophie Ellis Bextor.)
her recent album is great
__________________
IS IT MANICS O'CLOCK YET?
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 25-07-2014, 20:25
raven's Avatar
raven raven is offline
Winterlover
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,465
http://www.tate.org.uk/context-comme...n-edvard-munch

painted in Munch's old age


Between the clock and the bed
There’s only space and hell
Waiting for the transportation
Between the clock and the bed
Shapes move inside my head
Colliding with shared desperation


never has the pain of getting up been described so well
__________________
"There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore
There is society, where none intrudes,
By the deep sea, and music in its roar:
I love not man the less, but Nature more," - Byron

'I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.' (from Sea Fever - John Masefield)


"Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul
And sings the tune without the words
And never stops at all" - Emily Dickinson
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 25-07-2014, 21:13
Porco's Avatar
Porco Porco is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manics Still Good Island
Posts: 9,800
*grumble* Still reckon he sings 'sheer desperation'…. *grumble*
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | POPCORN!


| PorcoTunes: SC=fdporco YT=PorcoForever |
| I know our time has come and gone / At least we blazed a trail and shone |
| Yes I knew this thing would end / I did not know where or when |
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 25-07-2014, 21:55
bachelorette's Avatar
bachelorette bachelorette is offline
I live to fall asleep
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: here.inmyhead
Age: 43
Posts: 3,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by Porco View Post
*grumble* Still reckon he sings 'sheer desperation'…. *grumble*
well, he bloody does! lyric sheet lies.
__________________

Livet är kort, för kort för att slösas bort
Lämna hatet åt gamanar

Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 31-07-2014, 22:04
tomd2103 tomd2103 is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 208
Struggled with this song at first, but finally come round to it this past week. For me the best version of the song would lie somewhere between the demo and the album version as both have their merits and faults (in my opinion of course). Still not a fan of Green Gartside's voice though!

Been reading a bit about the painting that the song draws it's title from. Some people read really deeply into art (one article I read suggests that the clock in the painting represents a coffin). Is there any chance it is simply a self portrait of a man standing in his bedroom, quite literally between his clock and his bed?
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 01-08-2014, 01:28
bachelorette's Avatar
bachelorette bachelorette is offline
I live to fall asleep
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: here.inmyhead
Age: 43
Posts: 3,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomd2103 View Post
Been reading a bit about the painting that the song draws it's title from. Some people read really deeply into art (one article I read suggests that the clock in the painting represents a coffin). Is there any chance it is simply a self portrait of a man standing in his bedroom, quite literally between his clock and his bed?
Edvard Munch has deliberately made use of symbolism like the clock that resembles a coffin throughout his career, and this is his final self-portrait completed before his death, when he was already feeling rather feeble. So the interpretation of the clock (without arms) as a symbol of death is very likely. Even though the painting initially looks deceptively bright due to the use of colours.
What I don't understand is why you would set a lyric about such a bleak and sad painting to music that is suited for a seventies-disco-compilation.
__________________

Livet är kort, för kort för att slösas bort
Lämna hatet åt gamanar

Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 01-08-2014, 05:44
Takk's Avatar
Takk Takk is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Chasing ManBearPig through the Alps
Age: 40
Posts: 47,787
Quote:
Originally Posted by bachelorette View Post
sad painting to music that is suited for a seventies-disco-compilation.

Pretty much sums up the band
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 01-08-2014, 06:50
nocultureicons's Avatar
nocultureicons nocultureicons is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Birmingham
Age: 41
Posts: 9,780
Quote:
Originally Posted by hummingbird View Post
her recent album is great
It really is, possibly my favourite this year.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 01-08-2014, 11:17
amaitheanhorn's Avatar
amaitheanhorn amaitheanhorn is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Wales
Posts: 509
Quote:
Originally Posted by hummingbird View Post
her recent album is great
I didn't think she was still making music, shows how much I know

Last edited by amaitheanhorn; 01-08-2014 at 11:23.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 01-08-2014, 12:34
UEF's Avatar
UEF UEF is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London
Posts: 9,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by bachelorette View Post
Edvard Munch has deliberately made use of symbolism like the clock that resembles a coffin throughout his career, and this is his final self-portrait completed before his death, when he was already feeling rather feeble. So the interpretation of the clock (without arms) as a symbol of death is very likely. Even though the painting initially looks deceptively bright due to the use of colours.
What I don't understand is why you would set a lyric about such a bleak and sad painting to music that is suited for a seventies-disco-compilation.
See: Interiors
__________________
V2002 • Move 2003 • V2006 • KoKo 2006 • Culture Show 2007 • Album Chart Show 2007 • XFM 2007 • V2007 • Glastonbury 2007 • Astoria 2007 • London Brixton 2007 • NME Awards 2008 • NME Big Gig 2008 • Forever Heavenly 2008 • Roundhouse 2009 • Forum 2009 • Concert for Care 2009 • XFM Winter Wonderland 2010 • Brixton Academy 2011 • Blackwood Miners Institute 2011 • Roundhouse 2011 • O2 2011 • Rough Trade East 2012 • Shepherds Bush 2013 • Brixton 2014 • Glastonbury 2014 • Rough Trade East 2014 • Acoustic Guitar Show 2014 • Roundhouse 2014 • Cardiff Castle 2015 • On Blackheath 2015 • Royal Albert Hall 2016 • Swansea Liberty Stadium 2016 • Wembley Arena 2018 • Shepherds Bush 2019 • Kingston Pryzm 2021 x2 • Wembley Arena 2021 • Glastonbury 2023 • Alexandra Palace 2024 • Shepherds Bush 2025 (41)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:56.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.