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Old 05-10-2011, 01:47
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It comes to something when a sole play on Greg James' midweek chart update prior to a final position in the 40s or 50s seems gratifying. I almost welled up with pride when 'Postcards From A Young Man' was aired on Radio 1 in February despite the fact that it's almost indefensibly shit. Okay, it's not total turd, but bleedin' heck. It's also actually a respectable entry for a third single off of a guitar band's album in this day and age!
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:24
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Only on a MSP fan forum could a determinedly-appreciative fan seem like a troll, and whilst I appreciate your loyalty, there must be something that Nicky doesn't sing that you're not that arsed about?
I've been here 4 years. Don't start!


And the answer to your question is - No.
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:26
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I almost welled up with pride when 'Postcards From A Young Man' was aired on Radio 1 in February despite the fact that it's almost indefensibly shit. Okay, it's not total turd, but bleedin' heck!
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:27
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Top five singles left off NT: The Complete Singles.

1. PCP
2. Nobody Loved You
3. Further Away
4. Repeat
5. Suicide Alley
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:33
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Best: Motown Junk, A Design For Life, Faster, Roses In The Hospital,The Everlasting

Worst: Kevin Carter, Tsunami, Autumnsong, Postcards From A Young Man, Everything Must Go

Should've been: Sleepflower, Further Away, Nobody Loved You, Peeled Apples, A Billion Balconies Facing The Sun
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:43
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Best - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next

The one I could survive two weeks without listening to (possibly! ) - This Is The Day

Should have been singles - Glasnost, Solitude Sometimes Is
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:14
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Best: Faster / Revol / IYTTYCWBN / So Why So Sad / A Design For Life
Worst: This Is The Day / Indian Summer / Some Kind Of Nothingness / Love's Sweet Exile / Autumnsong

Should have been singles: 1985 / The Girl Who Wanted To Be God / Yes / The Year Of Purification / TIHOE (1. If Revol could be a single, then this one could have been as well. 2. Edited / with a great video it should have worked)
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Old 05-10-2011, 18:05
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Five Worst:

1. Autumnsong

Well there isn't really much to say apart from this is one of the worst songs in existence. This is anti-everything the Manics ever claimed they were, and fucking offensive at that. Who cares what Nicky's 'baby' did to their hair? Anyone? Thought not... Honestly i think Blue have written better songs.

2. Postcards for a Young Man

It's just one of the most tedious songs to be put to tape, and blatantly wants to be A Design for Life. So blatant, it actually is when you think about it just musically a bad re-working of it. I think the only reason this (besides being shit) wasn't the first single is because it was too much like ADFL. People would've just thought they were trying to re-live their glory days, which would've actually been true. A sad state of affairs for a band who just a year before released the excellent (musically) forward looking JFPL

3. Kevin Carter


Click click click click...oh shut the FUCK UP. You disappear off the face of the earth and leave us with this. Yeah, cheers Richey.

4. Little Baby Nothing


At least if Kylie Minogue had sung it, we may have had something pleasant to look at in the video. That may have distracted us from the fact that this is just a very poor Springsteen rip off. Why didn't they just go the full hog and get Courtney fucking Cox in?

5. This is the Day

I'd like to think that this never happened, but unfortunately they haven't even stopped promoting it yet. This is the number 1 entry in the 'How to ruin an 80s classic' rulebook. Coming up next: Manics do Wham! in the style of Autumnsong.


Five Best:

1. Found that Soul

This is the sort of song they should have released when they first came out. Dark, menacing and very very catchy. It is what the Manics were supposed to be about from the start, and occasionally still are.

2. Masses Against the Classes

A premonition of what was to come with KYE, also a real shock after the calmness of TIMMTY. The Manics found their balls again, yet didn't lose the pop quality.


3. If you Tolerate this your Children Will be Next

You try getting to number 1 with lyrics like 'If i can shoot rabbits, then i can shoot fascists'. Mask anything up as a singalong, it'll sell. Shame they still after all these years can't play it properly live though.

4. There By the Grace of God

It is straight from the Manics school of 'We don't give a fuck what people think' that seemed to disappear when they decided to record most of SATT. Never before heard electronic influences from Depeche Mode/New Order/Pet Shop Boys etc...lovely stuff. Makes you feel sick when you listen to PFAYM.

5. Revol

Well i like it alot, its a nice punk-edged guitar pop song that makes no sense lyrically whatsoever. What more do you need?


If they had released 'A Song for Departure', 'The Girl who Wanted to be God' or 'Forever Delayed' this list above would be different, criminally ignored for singles.
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Old 05-10-2011, 18:10
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Old 05-10-2011, 19:16
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Best - If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next

The one I could survive two weeks without listening to (possibly! ) - This Is The Day

Should have been singles - Glasnost, Solitude Sometimes Is
what's the longest you've gone without hearing a manics song? I remember a Queen fan telling me she HAD to hear Freddie's voice at least once a day
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Old 05-10-2011, 20:10
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Top 5 Should Have Been Singles

1. Yes
2. Send Away the Tigers
3. To Repel Ghosts
4. Sleepflower
5. Marlon JD

Top 5 Never Should Have Been Singles

1. She Is Suffering
2. Empty Souls
3. Autumnsong
4. The Everlasting
5. Postcards From A Young Man
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Old 05-10-2011, 20:52
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Top 5 reactions to this thread:

1. Found That Soul is a rollickin good toooon
2. Indian Summer isn't ADFL2, it's got a totally different energy and pathos, and it's a good song! It is!
3. Masses is a bit pants
4. Tsunami ditto
5. Nobody Loved You double ditto with a cherry (blossom tree) on top

And as a special number 6...The Gutless Wonder is actually really really brave
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Old 05-10-2011, 20:56
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what's the longest you've gone without hearing a manics song? I remember a Queen fan telling me she HAD to hear Freddie's voice at least once a day
A couple of weeks, usually cos I'm on my holidays!

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Top 5 reactions to this thread:

1. Found That Soul is a rollickin good toooon
2. Indian Summer isn't ADFL2, it's got a totally different energy and pathos, and it's a good song! It is!
3. Masses is a bit pants
4. Tsunami ditto
5. Nobody Loved You double ditto with a cherry (blossom tree) on top

And as a special number 6...The Gutless Wonder is actually really really brave

Erm, disagree with your 3-5 there vehemently but a big for your number
6!
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Old 05-10-2011, 22:44
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Five Worst:

1. Autumnsong

Well there isn't really much to say apart from this is one of the worst songs in existence. This is anti-everything the Manics ever claimed they were, and fucking offensive at that.
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Old 05-10-2011, 23:53
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My Top (bottom?) 5 'Worst Singles':
1. Autumnsong
I don't hate it as much as some seem to, but I don't like the lyrics about hair, the specific way the guitar intro squeals, and the just-too-obvious way it sounds like it's trying to be the Sweet Child O'Mine intro (but doesn't quite do so). Plus SATT had much better songs to release as another single IMHO.
2. Love's Sweet Exile / Repeat
Repeat seems to have been forgotten as being part of a single release. Good.
3. Empty Souls
It's the weakest track on Lifeblood for me - not a bad song, just a bad choice of single, even more so than Autumnsong off SATT really.
4. This Is The Day
Somehow the Manics made the original, a song I don't particularly enjoy at all, into something I quite like - but it still feels a bit like a cop-out that they didn't come up with an original song to promote National Treasures.
5. So Why So Sad
Again, not a song I dislike, but a weird single choice, and unnecessary when they had FTS out at the same time (yes I know about the logic of showing the two sides of the album, but the following singles, Ocean Spray and Let Robeson Sing did that just fine I think...).

My Top 5 'Best Singles':
1. A Design For Life
It's my favourite song, it's the song that really hooked me into the band as a proper fan, it's musically wonderful, lyrically concise and considering it in the context of the history of the band after Richey is arguably the most important song they ever released.
=2. Faster
=2. Motorcycle Emptiness
Both just amazing songs, I find it difficult to rank one above the other. If Motorcycle Emptiness had one failing as a single it's that it gets lumps chopped out of it on the radio.
4. Tsunami
I do not understand the minds of people who do not like this song. Most underrated Manics single by miles as far as I am concerned, gorgeous music, really interesting subject matter, it made me really happy when they announced this as the 4th single off TIMTTMY because I felt it deserved it so much.
5. The Masses Against The Classes
Weird to think about it, but other than perhaps Found That Soul shortly afterwards, they arguably haven't released a single this 'in-your-face' since. It's a bit of a shame they haven't I think.

There By The Grace Of God would be probably no.6 on my best list, in opposition to my reasoning for This Is The Day being on the worst...

My Top 5 'should have been singles' (as much about the songs they chose instead as the songs themselves):

1. 1985 (instead of Nixon)
2. A Song For Departure (instead of Empty Souls)
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3. The Second Great Depression (Instead of Autumnsong)
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4. Imperial Bodybags (instead of Autumnsong)
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5. All We Make Is Entertainment (instead of It's Not War)
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