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Old 06-09-2021, 18:18
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Does anyone know about japanese edition and bonus songs there? I need more of this stuff.
The Japanese release apparently will have two bonus tracks we know of, ‘My Drowning World’ and ‘These Dark Roads’. Also out on the 10th.

Agree with you about the album, I’m loving it.
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Old 06-09-2021, 19:31
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Just remembered the GATS debacle with people getting (or not getting) all sorts of variants to what they actually ordered.

Interested to see how Friday plays out. I ordered the signed GATS book thing and managed to get that and a signed vinyl sent in error. Arrived on the Saturday rather than the Friday but I’d take that again if I get another freebie.
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Old 06-09-2021, 20:02
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. Orwellian is kinda stupid outside this composition, here it makes a lot of sense.
This is an an example of the problem with being a Manics fan. Wanting to defend the band, even when they come up with sub-par stuff.

There is a strong argument that a good, or even decent song should never be reliant on anything else, it can stand alone. If it's 'kinda stupid outside this composition' then then in all reality you probably found it 'kinda stupid' altogether and just don't want to admit it to yourself.

It's just making excuses to try and defend a 'kinda stupid' song.
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Old 06-09-2021, 20:19
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Christ compared to Twitter and Facebook (in general I mean now), FD seems tame.
Indeedly do. I'm glad someone else has brought that up.

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Old 06-09-2021, 21:25
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This is an an example of the problem with being a Manics fan. Wanting to defend the band, even when they come up with sub-par stuff.

There is a strong argument that a good, or even decent song should never be reliant on anything else, it can stand alone. If it's 'kinda stupid outside this composition' then then in all reality you probably found it 'kinda stupid' altogether and just don't want to admit it to yourself.

It's just making excuses to try and defend a 'kinda stupid' song.
Did Orwellian murder your puppy or something?

I think the joy of being big fan of any band is that it it allows you put all their music into the context of what came before and after. The history, both musical and personal add richness to the listening experience. With TUVL I'm hearing musical callbacks to The Great Western which really hasn't been acknowledged in fifteen years. To me there's a lot going on under the hood of TUVL and it's interesting to see so many facets of the band on display in one album.

Personal tastes differ though so I'm not sure why your taking such umbridge with someone's like for a song.
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Old 06-09-2021, 22:02
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Haha no puppies were harmed by Orwellian thankfully, and just to be clear I've no issue with someone liking a song, just because I think it's shite doesn't mean everyone else has to (mind you it would help).

My issue is with making excuses. It's kinda stupid unless in 'x ' context. It's like saying that "it's a shite song but if you listen to it underwater on a manually reversed cassette in a 1988 Sony Walkman with 1996 Aiwa headphones then it's a masterpiece". It's just a shite song. Its ok to be a fan and say you don't like something.

If there is anything that PFAYM taught me it's that. (Truthfully I should have learned the lesson with 'wattsville blues' )but you live and learn.
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Old 06-09-2021, 22:30
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Alright, calm down! I was only being sarky!
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Old 06-09-2021, 22:37
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I sometimes wonder ifs right that with each MSP album I have to “work on” the album until I like it, but then often end up loving it.

Going into another listen tonight. I’m not quite there yet but I’m staring to remember bits of songs which is a good sign.
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Old 06-09-2021, 23:11
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The Secret He Had Missed acoustic

https://open.spotify.com/track/4fXfK...wA&dl_branch=1

https://youtu.be/vdgc-mFKzIg
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Old 06-09-2021, 23:25
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Gaaaaaaaaaaah I wish they had the confidence in them to do a whole album of stuff like that...
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Old 07-09-2021, 00:02
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No but seriously, how come they keep making such great music? 30 years and they can turn out a song as celestial as Snowing In Sapporo. The guitars on this one! The elaborate strumming throughout, the sparking streams of electric guitar surging under the final chorus. And then that incredibly atmospheric tail end of a fade out.

And as total and as poignant as Afterending? What a chorus -- sail into the abyss with me...

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Old 07-09-2021, 08:25
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Kieran Evans’ video is up now:
The Secret He Had Missed (Piano Acoustic Version)
https://youtu.be/KWrYrAHFlvs

But I would urge people who are bored by his previous videos to ask yourselves whether they want to spend another 5m43s watching something just to complain about how they didn’t find anything if value in it. It’s kind of masochistic at this point don’t you think?

Anyway, I think both the video and this version of the song are absolutely beautiful.
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Old 07-09-2021, 08:47
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So... Into The Waves Of Love? Any other offers?
Ok... So it appears to be for the acoustic version of The Secret He Had Missed.
Yeah ok!
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Old 07-09-2021, 08:50
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This video has me looking forward to the demo's now.
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Old 07-09-2021, 08:56
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The Japanese release apparently will have two bonus tracks we know of, ‘My Drowning World’ and ‘These Dark Roads’. Also out on the 10th.

Agree with you about the album, I’m loving it.
Is this the one that you’ve ordered?

https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SI...f161372237a6c3

It mentions bonus tracks but they’re not named and the title being a regular edition makes me think. Also seems cheap but if that’s the case then that’s cool.
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