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(unless you say Richey once stood on your foot and he apologised, therefore you'd be an ex girlfriend/boyfriend. Take the shoe and she'd worship it. Probably put a picture of it in the eventual heavily edited version).
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Someone was mentioning this Vivian woman and I don't know if this is related, but in the Rob Jovanovic book about Richey, he mentions that Emma Forrest wrote an article in 1998 about Richey and in it, she mentioned that Richey had given "Novel with Cocaine" to a fan the night before he disappeared with implicit instructions to read the forward. The author surmised that it was Jo who was given the book, but now I'm thinking it may have been this Vivian character. No idea how Emma Forrest got this info. She declined to be interviewed for the book after having initially agreed. Also, as loads of people have already mentioned, thanks so much for abridged version of the book. Very much appreciated! |
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Apparently Jo gave him the book so it would make potential sense that it was this mystery Vivian he then passed it on to? Maybe it’s all mysterious and nothing is known about it because... there’s nothing to know, beyond that. Good recall, I’d forgotten that anecdote.
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Thanks sofar ..I thought the archive might be it's one redeeming feature but obviously not!
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I find it kind of disturbing that they've both been on this forum over the years (if you search Kezia's posts, SHR defends her at one point when people were understandably unconvinced Kezia was in fact Rachel). It seems like the book has been a long time coming in light of this and that just makes it all seem the more vindictive and calculated to me. Quote:
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I can understand her anger, hear me out, because she was his sister and the band were around him so much through the time up to his disappearance why didn't they do more.....of course it's an unfair question, why didn't she, why didn't his family, why , why why.... what about his family, allusions to church, moving house, 'they fuck you up your mum and dad...they may not mean to but....'.....you can look at everything and find nothing makes sense ....for things to make sense there must be someone to blame. Maybe there is and maybe there isn't and maybe it's a bit of lots of things all mixed up and maybe, weirdly, the band were actually just too damn close and you're often the last person who can help when you're too close I don't recall Nicky blaming the church in part for Richey's problems - blamed The Priory's pseudoreligious bollox for not helping and he was surely right. I do recall Richey talking about being stuck on the idea of reconciling yourself with a God, didn't have to be God could be someone God-like in your life but everyone dies/leaves so how can they be God....as I think that's something like the first of the 12 steps it really wasn't gonna fecking help an over-thinker was it??? Maybe if he has criticised beyond this it grates because she's found solace from the church. It is weird families and religion.....speaking as a erm brought up now lapsed Catholic it isn't true that it messes you up completely, too easy to blame it for that, but when you no longer follow it you can remain close to family members who do but there can be, I dunno, it's a mindset that shapes so many ideas that you just can't share, it can be distancing and confusing but I digress.... William's Last Words reads like a suicide note. Rage is maybe all she's got? SHR is just too inexperienced. It doesn't sound like a biography more an outlet of despair and anger...In need of a good deal of editing before publication but really in need of a more experienced writer who would talk to everyone and remain objective. Maybe scrap the book and pick up the phone... The not knowing is impossible to reconcile with but maybe it's not just not knowing what happened to him for sure but the uncertainty about ever having truly known him completely at all. But who ever does know anyone else completely.....not anyone who is worth knowing anyway! I remember The Times said it's in a way a biography of someone who disappeared long before he actually did.
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So fucking undignified of Rachel to be part of this.
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I agree with this 100%
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Wait a minute, Emma Forrest initially agreed to be interviewed but then changed her mind? That's interesting. Perhaps she and SHR aren't quite so pally anymore.
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To me, this is the most shocking thing about this book.
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This is madness all of this can someone stick the book up on the dark web for me and my vulture friend to read? Come on.
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I'm in Finchley not fucking Amsterdam!
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Given what she’s been through, I can’t say anything bad about her. I am however disappointed that she would handle her brother’s legacy like this.
No no, sorry! I meant she declined to be interviewed for the Rob Jovanavic book, A Version of Reason. Apparently she initially agreed to be interview and then got cold feet. No idea if she’s in the new book or not, but she does t really seem to want to talk about him publicly that much anymore. |
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Anyone who’s been through hard times can’t have a free pass to behave in such disgraceful and unjustifiable ways unremarked.
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There’s actually a line in the new book that says, “along the way, he (Richey) had occasional dalliances with groupies, but that wasn’t really Richey’s style.” Lol! Are they purposely revising history or are they just incredibly delusional? Ha! |
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