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Old 26-04-2018, 23:06
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People critising Vivian's chorus

People seem to be critising Vivian's chorus for being too repetitive but I don't seem to see the same criticism for it's sister song 'A song for the sadness'. Just wondering why this is?
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Old 26-04-2018, 23:11
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Old 26-04-2018, 23:58
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My problem isnt so much the reoetativness, more the tonal shift from the verses. And, its jusr kind of, cheesey??
A song for the sadness dosnt seen anywhere near as corny musically, and for whatever reason dosnt bother me as much.
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Old 27-04-2018, 00:19
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Uhm... Repetitive?
It's a chorus, duh...

No, my remark would be that the chorus feels kind of incomplete. As there were supposed to be some missing lyrics, but then, again, that effect alone could be an interesting artistic statement, so I don't complain.
Doesn't sound bad either.
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Old 27-04-2018, 01:21
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With the lack of words, perhaps people are inspired to find the negatives in the situation
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Old 27-04-2018, 06:41
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Old 27-04-2018, 06:55
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The chorus is the weakest part of A Song For The Sadness as well.
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Old 27-04-2018, 07:20
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I like it. Very simple chorus of just "oh Vivian" but so what, the band don't usually do songs like this, and I like the guitar too.
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Old 27-04-2018, 07:27
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Old 27-04-2018, 08:16
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tonal shift from the verses
Yep, thats my problem with it. Even more pronounced in the demo which sounds like a haunting TIMTTMY-esque piano ballad until the jaunty chorus kicks in. It just doesn't fit the rest of the song for me.
Would probably be a bit dull with a simple chorus too though so I fully reserve the right to remain unsatisfied!

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Old 27-04-2018, 08:31
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Must admit I can't stand the song generally.
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Old 27-04-2018, 09:03
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Old 27-04-2018, 09:57
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Old 27-04-2018, 11:47
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That's my issue with it too. I can't take it seriously with that guitar riff being exactly the same as that song.
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Old 27-04-2018, 11:58
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They reference and quote music and lyrics all the time. Refreshing my memory of the song Turning Japanese, I think it kind of works on numerous on multiple levels if it’s an intentional nod, pictures, photographs, the connection to the album cover... not just the riff (rif). If it’s not intentional it’s pretty serendipitous.
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