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View Poll Results: Which one do you prefer?
Primitive Painters 36 42.86%
Alien Orders/Invisible Armies 21 25.00%
like them both 23 27.38%
don't like both of them 4 4.76%
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Old 12-05-2009, 22:16
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Old 12-05-2009, 22:18
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Christ, having translated the page no wonder I didn't figure it out!

Invisible Armies is great but it's so utterly not an MSP song, which is rather surreal.

Primitive Painters is very nice, starts quite old-school sounding and Nirvanaesque but builds into something rather beautiful. Love the post-chorus guitar part.

On balance Primitive Painters takes it.
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Old 12-05-2009, 22:19
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Old 12-05-2009, 22:29
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Great, thank you! I used Google's page translator and it spit me out after 20 seconds. Even still that was mighty confusing, the translator was telling me to shake 100mb files, rather odd.

Well I wasn't that big a fan of either of them, but knowing Manics songs they will be all I am playing in about 4 days.

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Old 12-05-2009, 22:52
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Okay, already listened to them both.
Dunno about the original but the Felt cover sounded pretty good and I think it fits the JFPL era. I liked Alien Orders / Invisible Armies too even though it is an obvious filler, I bet James loved those guitar riffs too much for not using them in a proper song.
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Old 12-05-2009, 22:54
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James' voice is incredible on Primitive Painters. Both are pretty good, even if AO/IA felt a little incomplete.

Also, was AO/IA written earlier (1993?) and then not used, or am I making this up?
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Old 12-05-2009, 23:03
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James' voice is incredible on Primitive Painters.
James: 'Has Albini gone to poker?'
Sean: 'Yes.'
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Sean: 'He must never know about this. You told him Nicky was going to sing it.'
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Old 12-05-2009, 23:03
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help.... need to listen

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Old 12-05-2009, 23:05
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How annoying - I really can't find them! Can't spend any more time on it either, got heese to feed. Try again later I guess!
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Old 12-05-2009, 23:20
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Alien Orders with lyrics and a growly JDB vocal would have been a good song for the album...

Primitive Painters is likely one of their best cover they've done, I think.
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Old 12-05-2009, 23:40
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Yeah Alien Orders Invisible Armies was going to be recorded around GATS time apparently (read it on a thread in FD), probably been changed lots since obviously.
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Old 12-05-2009, 23:44
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Alien Orders - disappointing because it's a damned fine riff and with a vocal it would've been a killer b-side. But without a vocal, it seems a wasted opportunity.

Primitive Painters - good cover. Again, very much b-side material but a fun listen.
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Old 12-05-2009, 23:51
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It makes sense to just be an instrumental and cover really, is fair on people who aren't from Japan who have endure a record company with a policy of tacking less good songs on the ends of albums so they can rip people off. I'll buy the album one day when have more money, but can live without it for a while considering I wouldn't be missing out on anything special or Richey-esque.
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