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Old 29-11-2017, 15:38
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They name check the Daily Mail for hate and redicule in Royal Correspondent. And it looks like the decision to advertise in it was made by their booking agent - its quite common for larger ones to chase any means of revenue and promotion without consulting the act.

Similar things have happened in the past. Muse, for example, had their cover of Feeling Good used by Nestle despite the band boycotting them. It was because Nestle frequently work with an agency that use were signed to and never have any problems and so assumed it was okay. Muse subsequently won 500,000 euros in a law suit which they donated to Oxfam.

It didn't seem like Sean was 'browbeaten' in any way and genuinely did want the ad pulled.

Good luck to the campaign. Daily Mail is vile, nasty and downright ignorant. The sooner its income sources dry up and the paper withers away the better.
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Old 29-11-2017, 18:10
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If their booking agents are Daily Mail readers, I'm not really surprised that non-UK fans are not their priority
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Old 29-11-2017, 22:56
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Old 30-11-2017, 13:13
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I imagine it's for a video shoot. Must be cold on the sea front dressed like they are! Hope it's just not just a video of them standing around looking bored. Need a visually interesting video like Tolerate again, that got my attention along with the Everlasting thus making me a fan!
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Old 30-11-2017, 16:44
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Looks like another one of their “standing around doing fuck all” videos
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Old 30-11-2017, 17:40
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Hope it's just not just a video of them standing around looking bored.
I admire this level of optimism.
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If it's going to be a stand around doing fuck all video then judging by these photos they're gonna look mighty smart doing so
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Old 30-11-2017, 19:48
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Do they still make videos? Didn't think there was the budget for them any more, the single being dead and all that.
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Old 30-11-2017, 21:16
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No band looks as good and cool just standing there looking bored as the Manics does.. so why not
it's not like they're great actors anyway..
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it's not like they're great actors anyway..
I think James was great in That's No Way to Tell a Lie
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I think James was great in That's No Way to Tell a Lie
And An English Gentleman (watching kids with his camera?)
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Could just be a promo photo shoot?
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Manics drummer browbeaten by faceless pressure group into pulling an ad for their new album in the Daily Mail shock!!

http://www.nme.com/news/music/manic-...futile-2164400

Will Stop Funding Hate then go on to stop people funding extremist ideology both National and Islamic? The fuck they will!
All papers and most TV and alternative Internet stuff is bullshit anyway. If you believe a tenth of their shit you deserve everything you get.
And of course the group doesn't want censorship or the newspapers to be pulled from sale (Check the criticism entry on this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Funding_Hate) so... Just want certain bands and companies not to advertise in papers? But that's not sinister. The ends justify the means. Omelettes cannot be made without their integrity of their structure being compromised.

It's people like that which make me wish the UK had Ted Nugent type people.
As it is, let's welcome our new doublespeak! Resistance seriously is futile.
Browbeaten? What are you on lad. Sean didn't know it'd happened, he didn't want it to happen and he's said as much, don't make out that he's said "not in my name" under any kind of duress. Would've thought the band's views on the Daily Mail would've been obvious enough by now.

They're called Stop Funding Hate and it's a positive campaign. Course they're not going to stop hate, and their campaign is going to make them subject of hate themselves. We're fucked up people with fucked up priorities. So what if they don't stop everyone funding hate, if they stop some that should be better than none.. But no that's just not good enough is it, if you're going to oppose anything you better make sure you're perfect.

I think they're having quite a sensible approach really. Businesses love to put forward these wholesome family images. And papers don't always think about their layouts.. surely you understand why some businesses wouldn't want their message alligned with the kind of messages appearing in the Daily Mail... some of our best customers are Muslims!



Can't remember if this was Daily Mail, could've been one of the red tops but come on... I'm only surprised that there isn't a bloody Childline advert on there or summat.

On the other hand, this all or nothing bullshit seems to have flooded into our culture. People need to get the hang of facts like, if you don't like red it doesn't mean you like blue, if you agree with one person on one thing it doesn't mean you agree with them on everything. Even the companies advertising in the Daily Mail, it doesn't mean they endorse everything in there. Guilt by association is all the rage these days, if you're not with us you're against us, why not use that shit in a positive way.

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I don't see anything wrong or contradictory in a campaign that asks companies to think about where they pay to advertise especially where the companies purport to value ethical policies. Having said that and also understanding Sean's distaste I think such a paper is a perfect place to advertise the forthcoming album - their readers need to be converted...reach the masses against the classes
Co-Op are the odd one out there, they make such a big thing about being ethical but they're not budging on this whereas plenty of other companies have.

Ah it could've been advertised on The Mirror's website for the same effect really, Daily Mail readers always end up in their comment sections anyway.

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They name check the Daily Mail for hate and redicule in Royal Correspondent. And it looks like the decision to advertise in it was made by their booking agent - its quite common for larger ones to chase any means of revenue and promotion without consulting the act.

Similar things have happened in the past. Muse, for example, had their cover of Feeling Good used by Nestle despite the band boycotting them. It was because Nestle frequently work with an agency that use were signed to and never have any problems and so assumed it was okay. Muse subsequently won 500,000 euros in a law suit which they donated to Oxfam.

It didn't seem like Sean was 'browbeaten' in any way and genuinely did want the ad pulled.

Good luck to the campaign. Daily Mail is vile, nasty and downright ignorant. The sooner its income sources dry up and the paper withers away the better.
Missed the Muse one, good on the lads. It's weird that it does happen though.. Just from an advertiser's point of view, how well can you promote someone when you're detached enough that you don't know what they're about?

It's alright though, apparently the next Burger King advert is gonna have Suedehead on it.
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Old 01-12-2017, 13:58
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And in other news... new song being played on the Chris Moyles show (Radio X) next Friday!
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Yeah, I heard that.. do we have a title yet? Wonder when the website's going to announce this single... or whether it's going to get a physical release.
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