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Old 03-07-2020, 16:00
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The chorus is proper catchy. It actually feels like a summer song which is very un-Manicsy.

Tip of the cap to Patrick Jones as well, I’m really liking his lyrics.
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Old 03-07-2020, 16:57
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Anybody notice a similarity to 'im not working' in the verses of the new single?
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Old 03-07-2020, 18:01
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Not picking up much other than a touch of Antarctic and The Soulmates. Very Lifeblood.
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Old 03-07-2020, 18:08
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Love the Boy from the Plantation. Usual gorgeous melancholy.
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Old 03-07-2020, 20:06
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Tab

Main riff (with whammy and effects - hopefully James was using the Jazzmaster - it sounds like it!)

————————————-——
————————— 12 b 13– (whammied)
———— 12 ——— x ————
———— 10 ——— 10 ———
———— 8 ——— 7 ————
——————————————

Chord before chorus (Version of D#!!!! James fav chord!)

————————————-
————————————-
—— 10 ————————-
—— 8 —————————-
—— 6——————————
—————————————

Chorus

Am, F, C, Em

On the F and Em chords there is a little run starting 3rd fret high e string


——3 —— 1 —— 0——
——3 —— 1 —— 0——
———- 2 —— 0 ———
———————————
———————————
———————————

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Old 03-07-2020, 21:13
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So I just listened to Boy from the Plantation properly on Spotify, as when I watched the Youtube video yesterday I wasn't really paying attention at all. It's a really good song, so I'm going to give it a few more listens and no doubt love it Currently playing the other come about the war coming, but still not doing much for me at the moment, but will give it more listens of course I kind of wish Boy from the Plantation was having a physical release on 7" vinyl, shame the Manics as a band seem to have stopped bothering now even though most other artists still do on a limited basis
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Old 03-07-2020, 23:29
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Harmonica towards the end of the song reminds me of Bad Boys and Painkillers and Cardiff Afterlife, which is not a bad thing because it's my favourite Manics song. The arpeggios and licks in the chorus are also very Cardiff Afterlife too!
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Old 04-07-2020, 03:42
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James is the best musician ever. Amazing tracks, I've never heard of Victor Lidio Jara Martinez but now I know.
Really gettin' those vibes too. Every now and then I get this massive appreciation for the man's work. Last time was with Futurology. Just the whole work together made me think hey, what if the Manics are actually the best? Ever. Even better than kent and Einstόrzende Neubauten and Kino...

After Futurology, haven't gotten that vibe. But with these songs -- yeah it's there again. Sky high appreciation for the man's pure fuckin musical genius.

A little note -- I remember after Resistance Is Futile Nicky said (in some interview) that James is full of exciting new ideas on how to get their music sounding wider and bigger, mix-wise. I thought -- well, this bodes well. I know James has been listening to the last two War On Drugs albums a lot. That band has the biggest, widest, most technically excellent mixes ever made for rock music. War On Drugs is even better than Radiohead in many regards. (Not speaking music, just mix engineering quality). I was really expecting Resistance Is Futile to sound like that, but no -- it was nice but nothing special. So hearing Nicky say James is working on it really showed promise to me.

Aaaaand he's done it here! These three tracks are damn near to sounding as spacious and striking as War On Drugs. Colossal oceans of low end ebbing off into the darkness, wide broken guitar chords flanking the mix from the far left and right, decaying slowly. And the drums nice and low. He even does the main War On Drugs trick in Boy From The Plantation -- turning the snare drum very soft and low in the mix so it doesn't take up too much space, thus allowing everything else to breathe, especially guitars. That track's even got harmonica mixed very similarly to how War On Drugs mixes harmonica on Thinking Of A Place, for example -- just right of the left flanking guitar.

This isincredibly important to the Manics' music at this point, imo. As James' voice ages, they really have to amp up the engineering side of their music. All bands are forced to find new virtues as the youth of their singers voice fades, lest they lose "the magic". Radiohead are looking into orchestral work, for example. I really-really believe that for the Manics, wide, huge, gorgeous sounding mixes are the way to go. I don't care what they do "musically" (rock, pop, whatever) but it has to sound stellar, not just "okay", or "good."

Things like Postcards, a lot of the music on Resistance Is Futile even (International Blue is a great song but it's engineered merely okay) just won't do.

These mixes, though, are better than This Is My Truth and Lifeblood, their previous two high water marks, engineering-wise.

Very exciting time to be a manics fan. Please please please god let this carry over to the rest of their work too.
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Old 04-07-2020, 09:46
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Must have listened to Boy from the Plantation on Spotify last night on repeat about 15 times, I love it. Got it on again now as I type this. Shame singles from artists like James and bands even like the Manics don't even get their 'singles' anywhere near the charts nowadays. Maybe if we all binge listening to the song on whatever streaming services are out there, we can make it appear in... the top 200? haha No dizzy heights of No.18 like That's No Way To Tell A Lie which, funnily enough, I played both 7" vinyls yesterday
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:19
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James's voice is the most memorable voice in the entire Universe and I'm not exaggerating. He's got that instantly recognizable magic in his voice. I'm listening to Manics 20+ years now and it's always like the first time, they're one of a kind.

They're ageing but lyrics and music always on point and they never lost it, not even once.
James is like a revolution veteran now, cool and determined like never before.

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Must have listened to Boy from the Plantation on Spotify last night on repeat about 15 times, I love it.
I remember when James released That's No Way to Tell a Lie, I listened to that song for 10-20 times in a row.
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Old 04-07-2020, 13:43
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I remember when James released That's No Way to Tell a Lie, I listened to that song for 10-20 times in a row.
Now that was a launch single and a half
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Old 04-07-2020, 17:55
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I agree with the idea that he's probably using the jazzmaster for that kind of 'glassy' sound to the arpeggios.As people have said, slightly reminiscent of lifeblood so hopefully he can start giving that album its due for once. I'm anticipating the anniversary edition of that album never mind kye!
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Old 04-07-2020, 18:54
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Tab

Main riff (with whammy and effects - hopefully James was using the Jazzmaster - it sounds like it!)

————————————-——
————————— 12 b 13– (whammied)
———— 12 ——— x ————
———— 10 ——— 10 ———
———— 8 ——— 7 ————
——————————————

Chord before chorus (Version of D#!!!! James fav chord!)

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—— 10 ————————-
—— 8 —————————-
—— 6——————————
—————————————

Chorus

Am, F, C, Em

On the F and Em chords there is a little run starting 3rd fret high e string


——3 —— 1 —— 0——
——3 —— 1 —— 0——
———- 2 —— 0 ———
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'The boy from the plantation' is simply the best thing from a Manic in years.

Any guesses who the backing singer is during the chorus?
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:33
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Who's drumming for the album?
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