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Old 18-04-2018, 17:42
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Hasn't anyone said this is like RTF Pt 2? lol

The songs are very Pop orientated, I don't think the Arena Tour is suited for them.............It will interesting to see the Set Lists from the 1st 2 dates.

I need a few more listens but its not moving me much
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Old 18-04-2018, 18:16
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Is there anyone who knows how I can listen to James and Sean talking on Amazon about the album? Says you need an Amazon music account to listen to them
Hopefully the band will at least get a No.1 album on the vinyl chart come Friday.
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Old 18-04-2018, 19:20
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If that were true I'd buy 5. I've ordered friends to stream it regardless whether they like the manics or not

Could the cds included with the vinyl be counted as extra copies just this once ? Pleeeeeeze
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Old 18-04-2018, 19:20
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Hasn't anyone said this is like RTF Pt 2? lol
I wouldn't say this precision-produced album of carefully optimistic stadium rock anthems has much to do with RtF's set of largely introspective and melancholy songs with intentionally more restrained arrangements.
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Old 18-04-2018, 19:34
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I’m a little baffled by how highly so many rate hold me like a heaven,
i thought it had that over-produced quality people were criticising and there
are way too many woah-oh-ohs: too many on the whole album really.
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The wooahhs are kind of neither here nor there for me - they work fine but I don’t think they would have really impacted my love of the song if they’d been replaced by something else.
Those "woo-ooo-oohs" are the Manics' stab at the millennial whoop, the one lastest shot at mass communication (for those of you not in the know: https://qz.com/767812/millennial-whoop/)
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Old 18-04-2018, 20:13
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http://www.hotpress.com/Manic-Street.../22011584.html

‘Seagulls of Forgotten Wars’, sounds like a lost Richey lyric, about Chekhov or something.
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Old 18-04-2018, 21:11
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I'm forever going to hear Seagulls now

A number 2 album is still brilliant for the Manics in this current music climate, regardless of the fact we've all got enough copies of the album each to start our own record shop The general public probably won't be aware of all the bundles and different formats though.

I can't comment on The Greatest Showman as I've not seen it or listened to the soundtrack, but I've seen endless gifs of it all over my Tumblr for months and seen people going on about the soundtrack, so *shrugs*, I guess it's popular, and to be fair mostly a different audience to the Manics. I don't know the rules on chart eligibility, but it seems a bit weird it's allowed to be counted with it being a film soundtrack, but there we are. The charts have changed so much over the last few years, I've no idea how it all works now and don't usually pay attention to it other than on occasions like this. I hope the band won't be too disheartened about getting number 2, but we know what Nicky's like on such matters

As for the album itself...I think it's clicking a lot more with me now after more listens. It's definitely more interesting than anything from PFAYM for me. On first listen I did think it was slightly bland, but then after more listens I thought there were more layers and interesting little parts to songs that I didn't really notice initially. I'm still irritated A Soundtrack to Complete Withdrawal didn't make it on to the album though. It's just so different and quirkier than the rest of the album. I do like that side of the Manics and wish they wouldn't hold back on it sometimes.
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Old 18-04-2018, 22:03
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Do the charts matter to anyone anymore? Expect for marketing execs and Nicky?
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Old 18-04-2018, 22:14
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Without checking, probably just not the same people?

I think the production is fine, and it’s simply a fantastic song. The wooahhs are kind of neither here nor there for me - they work fine but I don’t think they would have really impacted my love of the song if they’d been replaced by something else.

I’m baffled how it isn’t everyone’s absolute favourite
I guess i'm disappointed more than anything after reading the reactions to it on here before hearing it.
I see the comparisons to the feels like heaven cover and i love that but not this.
You mention in another thread about the variety of people's favourites and that's true it seems.
Another comparison to know your enemy i suppose, where nobody can fully agree what the best songs are on that either.

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Those "woo-ooo-oohs" are the Manics' stab at the millennial whoop, the one lastest shot at mass communication (for those of you not in the know: https://qz.com/767812/millennial-whoop/)
Yeah, that came up on here previously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN23lFKfpck
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Old 18-04-2018, 22:21
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Do the charts matter to anyone anymore? Expect for marketing execs and Nicky?
It really shouldn't but I'd like to see it happen.
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Old 18-04-2018, 22:28
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Let's hope no more kids go to see The Greatest Showman over the weekend and rush out to buy the soundtrack directly after! (I enjoyed the film and the soundtrack is very catchy but hopefully it has already peaked!)
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Old 18-04-2018, 23:24
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I guess i'm disappointed more than anything after reading the reactions to it on here before hearing it.
I see the comparisons to the feels like heaven cover and i love that but not this.
You mention in another thread about the variety of people's favourites and that's true it seems.
Another comparison to know your enemy i suppose, where nobody can fully agree what the best songs are on that either.



Yeah, that came up on here previously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN23lFKfpck


I think James said that he didn't have his guitar when he wrote Hold Me Like A Heaven, in Nice as it was taken off him at the airport and they didn't have the studio in Cardiff when they got back. I think it's a lovely song in that and how it was completed.
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Old 19-04-2018, 03:48
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People give in from 2:30 to 2:55 is my favorite piece in a Manics song, ever.
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Old 19-04-2018, 05:43
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I can dig it.
Definitely a grower. Lots of bits stuck in my head for the last few days.

I cringed when I first heard Vivian. Couldn't stop thinking of the old Top Gear theme tune. Now it's one of my favourites.

Hoping for more of a 'difficult' Journal/Futurology direction next time though (if there is indeed a next time)

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Old 19-04-2018, 06:27
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Found 3 reviews of the album in Belgium. All 3 were horrible, so I'm not bothering to post a link.

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