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Old 02-10-2012, 09:56
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I'd heard that Another Invented Disease was pieced together in the studio and the band couldn't play it live. As it's a demo that clearly wasn't the case? Sooner have a live disc personally.
It's possible a number of eventualities are true. There is only one song that is 100% definitely live, the cover of Damn Dog. Everything else on the album is of course played by James as we have the drum machine doing its ting and I wouldn't be surprised to see him doing some of the bass either frankly given how much better a player he was than the rest of the band. GT seems to be for all intents and purposes a JDB solo album, musically speaking at least.

The demos could be acoustic, or pieced together in the same way those on the recent deluxe albums were. You never know though eh?

As for the special editions, I like the fact that bands are making special editions worth paying the money for, however if the other tracks have been issued officially elsewhere the temptation is to go to iTunes to grab the songs that are unavailable elsewhere.
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:23
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GT seems to be for all intents and purposes a JDB solo album, musically speaking at least.

The demos could be acoustic, or pieced together in the same way those on the recent deluxe albums were. You never know though eh?
It's a strange one given how GT was recorded and that many of the demos for their recent albums have been acoustic based, but all the old demos that ended up on bootlegs were full band (or as full band as it gets when you've got Richey in your band).

There's not much in the way of old GT demos from bootlegs on YouTube but the Suicide Alley demo is better than the single version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-_81H0brws

That 6:25 demo of Motorcycle Emptiness on Disc 2 looks a bit suspicious though.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:48
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They didn't write on acoustic in the early days and it showed. Every song was a weird chug-along

I reckon acoustic writing came in somewhere around THB, certainly EMG, although there may well have been exceptions...
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:52
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They didn't write on acoustic in the early days and it showed. Every song was a weird chug-along

I reckon acoustic writing came in somewhere around THB, certainly EMG, although there may well have been exceptions...
Don't you think that is a bit of a bold statement to make? Unless you were present in the studio or in the bedroom/living room of one of the band, how can you say they definately didn't demo on an acoustic?
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:54
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Don't you think that is a bit of a bold statement to make? Unless you were present in the studio or in the bedroom/living room of one of the band, how can you say they definately didn't demo on an acoustic?
I could be completely wrong and probably am.
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Old 02-10-2012, 13:49
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It always seems to me when they release acoustic 'demos' they've just recorded acoustic demo-sounding versions of the purpose of release, but that's just me....I see James as too much of a perfectionist to release shitty demos, and I don't think they had much love for acoustic songs in the early days, when it was all about electric guitar and noise.
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Old 02-10-2012, 14:19
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They did a few acoustic-esque numbers in the early days such as R.P McMurphy, Aint Goin' Down, etc. I think the recent spate of demos released from Journal onwards were done for the sake of the bumping up the CD package.
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Old 02-10-2012, 14:30
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I think it's just because of the change in situations. Back in the ye early days demos were pretty much all they could record due to no access to proper studios, and they also served as something to show to the record labels in order to get a deal. Making full-band demos made sense. Nowadays they've no need for any of that and the stripped-down demos are plentiful because they've always been a band relying a lot on one person's writing, so James(/Nicky) records sketches and early versions with his guitar before taking them to the band and fleshing the songs out in studio with them.
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Old 02-10-2012, 20:53
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Just got a tweet from Super Deluxe Edition (@sdedition) with this link. Confirmed tracklisting for the 2cd+DVD set.

3CD box (probably a shoebox) and 10" vinyl to be released "via the band’s web store" :s

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/ne...track-listing/

CD1: Original Album [remastered] (ALL FORMATS)

1.Slash ‘N’ Burn
2.Nat West-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds
3.Born To End
4.Motorcycle Emptiness
5.You Love Us
6.Love’s Sweet Exile
7.Little Baby Nothing
8.Repeat
9.Tennessee
10.Another Invented Disease
11.Stay Beautiful
12.So Dead
13.Repeat
14.Spectators Of Suicide
15.Damn Dog
16.Crucifix Kiss
17.Methadone Pretty
18.Condemned To Rock ‘N’ Roll
19.Theme From M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless)

Pre-order single CD remaster

• UK Pre-order: 1CD Generation Terrorists

• USA Pre-order: Generation Terrorists

• GERMANY Pre-order 1CD Generation Terrorists

CD2: Previously Unreleased Demos [remastered] (Legacy Edition Only)

1.Slash ‘N’ Burn (House In The Woods Demo)
2.Nat West-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds (Marcus Demo)
3.Born To End (Marcus Demo)
4.Motorcycle Emptiness (House In The Woods Demo )
5.You Love Us (Heavenly Version)
6.Love’s Sweet Exile (House In The Woods Demo)
7.Little Baby Nothing (House In The Woods Demo)
8.Repeat (Marcus Demo)
9.Tennessee (House In The Woods Demo)
10.Another Invented Disease (House In The Woods Demo)
11.Stay Beautiful (Marcus Demo)
12.So Dead (House In The Woods Demo)
13.Repeat (House In The Woods Demo)
14.Spectators Of Suicide (House In The Woods Demo)
15.Damn Dog (Live)
16.Crucifix Kiss (Marcus Demo)
17.Methadone Pretty (House In The Woods Demo)
18.Suicide Alley (South Wales Demo)
19.New Art Riot (South Wales Demo)
20.Motown Junk (London Studio Demo)
21.Motown Junk

DVD: (Legacy Edition Only)

1. Culture, Alienation, Boredom And Despair – A Film About Generation Terrorists *

2. Unseen Super Eight Montage *

3.Home Road Movie*

4.Official Videos:
•Motown Junk
•You Love Us (Heavenly Version)
•Stay Beautiful
•Loves Sweet Exile
•You Love Us (Columbia Version)
•Slash ‘N’ Burn
•Motorcycle Emptiness
•Theme From M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless)
•Little Baby Nothing
•Repeat (New Film)*
•Nat West-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds (New Film)
5. Generation Terrorists At The BBC *
•Snub
•Rapido
•Band Explosion
•Rapido
•Top of The Pops – You Love Us
•Top of The Pops – Motorcycle Emptiness
•Top of The Pops – Theme From M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless)

Pre-order Three Disc Legacy Edition
• UK Pre-order: 2CD+DVD Generation Terrorists
• USA Pre-order: Generation Terrorists
• GERMANY Pre-order 2CD+DVD Generation Terrorists

Vinyl version

Side splits for the vinyl are as follows:
A1 Slash N’ Burn (Remastered)
A2 Nat West-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds (Remastered)
A3 Born To End (Remastered)
A4 Motorcycle Emptiness (Remastered)
A5 You Love Us (Remastered)
B1 Love’s Sweet Exile (Remastered)
B2 LIttle Baby Nothing (Remastered)
B3 Repeat (Stars And Stripes) (Remastered)
B4 Tennessee (Remastered)
C1 Another Invented Disease (Remastered)
C2 Stay Beautiful (Remastered)
C3 So Dead (Remastered)
C4 Repeat (UK) (Remastered)
C5 Spectators Of Suicide(Remastered)
D1 Damn Dog (Remastered)
D2 Crucifix Kiss (Remastered)
D3 Methadone Pretty (Remastered)
D4 Condemned To Rock’n'Roll (Remastered)
D5 Theme From M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless) (Remastered)

Pre-order Vinyl Edition

• UK Pre-order: Generation Terrorists [VINYL] (coming soon)
• GERMANY Pre-order: Generation Terrorists [Vinyl]
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Old 02-10-2012, 21:13
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Looks like the tracklisting was correct then.
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Looks like the tracklisting was correct then.
What with it being a promo from the label, it was always going to be.
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Old 02-10-2012, 21:18
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What with it being a promo from the label, it was always going to be.
Sorry to drag this up AGAIN, but, how were we to know that? There is no name of promo company on the photo of the CD inlay, and the post had no source. We're not mind readers!
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Sorry to drag this up AGAIN, but, how were we to know that? There is no name of promo company on the photo of the CD inlay, and the post had no source. We're not mind readers!
As I understand it, the poster made reference to the Twitter account of a music writer who posted it when providing various info on Sunday. Not difficult to click through to that, even if it wasn't specifically on the first post of the picture. As it happens, that account is mine and I can happily confirm the CD was received via Hall or Nothing at the end of last week. I am not the curious sociopath some people conjured that might waste their time inventing such a thing.
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Old 02-10-2012, 21:24
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As I understand it, the poster made reference to the Twitter account of a music writer who posted it when providing various info on Sunday. Not difficult to click through to that, even if it wasn't specifically on the first post of the picture. As it happens, that account is mine and I can happily confirm the CD was received via Hall or Nothing at the end of last week. I am not the curious sociopath some people conjured that might waste their time inventing such a thing.
Aha, apologies! It make much more sense when the facts are clear!
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What with it being a promo from the label, it was always going to be.
Well yeah; was saying that moreso because of some of the peeps who were sceptical of it.
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