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13-02-2020, 22:05
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YES and Phillip Schofield?
Are there any parallels between the suppressed Phillip Schofield scandal and Yes? Given the national-treasure portraying a wholesome life and living a double-life?
Last edited by taxexile; 13-02-2020 at 22:10. 
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13-02-2020, 22:18
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I can sing "Schofield" over "Forrr sale" but that's about all I got. Would have to think about it. I already thought he had came out years ago. I know there was a sketch in Extras (Which I never saw or bothered with) but I remember it was on the news less than a decade ago?
Oh well. Can you explain more how you think Yes parallels with Schofield?
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14-02-2020, 00:54
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That's an interesting read, and I would say certainly a valid one. Do I think it's the intended one? No.
As oblique and open to interpretation as a lot of Richey's lyrics are, I feel that the context surrounding the song, and the juxtaposition of the literal text to the figurative decoration - like the sound clips that open and close the song - only give way to one literal interpretation. Having said that, there are of course parallels to be drawn between the literal act of selling oneself, and the situation Richey may have felt he was in. I think many entertainers or artists would also feel this way. So I do think that's a cool reading of the song. I just don't think it would have been involved in the thrust of writing it. But that's just my impression of it. It's a weighty lyric with plenty of interpretation that can be levelled towards it.
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14-02-2020, 00:59
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14-02-2020, 08:18
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Taxexile, am I reading your post incorrectly or are you seriously suggesting that being gay is ‘questionable behaviour’?
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14-02-2020, 10:59
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In the context I can now see the chorus being responses to an interviewers questions rather than being from one person's perspective (the singer).
Like the one line responses from magazine questions. Other than that buggered as to know what's going on about!
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15-02-2020, 01:33
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Does Yes have any parallels to the news about Phillip Schofield?
No Schofield wasn't covering up an unwholesome life unless you mean covering what wider society or elements of considered to be wrong? Yes is about prostitution in the broadest sense of the word. How everything and everyone is seen to have a price. And surely about depression in part a complete loss of self whilst still attempting to fit in to go through the motions but there's nothing really left of them. It's the point of view of a victim of abuse more than a need to put on an acceptable front. Maybe as the band experienced some fame and attention they became more exposed to a world where everything is for sale and that played through but the lyrics run much deeper
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15-02-2020, 20:43
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Wasnt there some nonsense about this in that awful withdrawn traces book?
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16-02-2020, 02:14
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16-02-2020, 08:07
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16-02-2020, 08:14
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Get a 2nd hand copy, protect the environment. It also doubles as toilet paper in an emergency...
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16-02-2020, 15:39
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The Philip Schofield scandal? I'd heard he'd come out as gay, but I don't think that can be regarded as scandalous, even if he was married with kids. A lot of LGBTQ+ people were forced into leading double lives because of societal standards of the era in which they lived. Schofield would have been a young 'un just starting out at around the same time Thatcher brought in those anti-gay laws (similar to the ones Russia has now). It would have made it difficult for him as a children's TV presenter if his homosexuality had been public knowledge. The blame for this behaviour lies with law makers who sought to push innocent people into the margins, rather than with those forced to conceal who they really were. And nah, I don't see any parallels between that and "Yes". Last edited by Velocitygirl; 16-02-2020 at 15:43.
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