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01-02-2006, 00:30
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Manics songs that include music/lyrics stolen from someone else
I thought The Holy Bible was untouchable, until I noticed that the chord progression on 'Revol' (once it gets past the intro) is way too similar to that of 'Under My Wheels', their '92 Alice Cooper cover from the 'Motorcycle Emptiness' single.
I also heard elsewhere on these boards: Quote:
And apparently Richey lifted many of the words on THB out of books he was reading at the time. Guess inspiration's gotta come from somewhere... 
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01-02-2006, 00:36
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The chord sequence in Tolerate is supposed to resemble an old Stranglers track called duchess but apparently it's entirely coincidental. When the similarity was brought to their attention, the Manics (well I'm assuming James and Sean are the relevant ones
 ) said they had never heard the track.For me, the strings on TGWWTBG sound naggingly familiar, but I can't place what they resemble...
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01-02-2006, 00:40
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the Manics have been somewhat both obvious and not obvious in the lifting of other peoples ideas from the beginning.
the cover for Suicide Alley is a homage to the first Clash album. the lyrics for You Love Us ("throw some acid to your face") is inspired from the William Burroughs quote that was on the back sleeve of Motown Junk ("they throw acid at the Mona Lisa").
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01-02-2006, 00:47
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01-02-2006, 00:53
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This thread should pretty well cover it!
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01-02-2006, 08:53
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Nicky said he`d never heard of it but admitted it did bear a certain resemblence.
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10-02-2006, 15:56
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Just noticed today that the same chord progression from 'Under My Wheels' and 'Revol' is also in 'Donkeys'. Obviously some chord progressions crop up all over the place, but this one is pretty unique to my ears. I'm guessing 'Under My Wheels' (unconsciously, probably) had its place in the writing of both of those other songs.
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10-02-2006, 18:15
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10-02-2006, 19:34
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 ).And although it was mentioned that Failure Bound borrowed from Phillip Larkin when it came out, it was only yesterday that I realised they used the quote in the Stars and Stripes booklet fourteen years ago.
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10-02-2006, 19:45
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But all the drugs in this world
Won't save her from herself - Marilyn Manson And all the drugs in the world Can't save us from ourselves - Nicky Wire
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11-02-2006, 02:37
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hehe...tsk tsk, Nicky
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13-02-2006, 14:15
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Rudi's gonna fail, a play on the clashes Rudi cant fail. Just basically stole a clash idea and reversed it, just audaious if you ask me.
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22-02-2006, 05:42
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15-12-2010, 21:38
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http://www.wussu.com/poems/agh.htm I dunno if you read his poems on English lessons (we don't) so for me it wasn't obvious.
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