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Old 09-02-2007, 09:22
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Any good books about the Manics?

I've read Simon Price's book but would like to read something else about the boys - any recommendations? What's the general opinion about SP's book? I've seen a few disparaging comments about him on this site - is some of the stuff in his book not true?
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:32
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I've read Simon Price's book but would like to read something else about the boys - any recommendations? What's the general opinion about SP's book? I've seen a few disparaging comments about him on this site - is some of the stuff in his book not true?
in the beginning is laughable..........she basically "recounts" every asinine detail about her meetings with the manics right down to the exact clothes they wore on certain days - its gotta be a load of bollocks

sweet venom is terrible.........its written by someone who i doubt didnt even know the band existed before they got famous. it was treated like an article in one of them free newspapers...utter shite

mike middles book.....a small improvment on the above but he seems to think that the manics had an infamous performance on totp of REVOL in which james wore a ballacava
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:37
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Mitch Ikedas book of photographs that came out at the same time as the greatest hits is quite interesting.

What is it they say? Picture tells a thousand words? As well as that it's got some strange captions by the band members even if it isn't going to take you days to read.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:44
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The Simon Price book is the best, which ain't saying much. Apparently there's quite a lot of factually incorrect information, I think I read an interview where Nicky said he was pissing himself reading it cos it was so wrong.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:55
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'Everything' is the only semi decent book about the band, though as mentioned the Mitch book is nice to look at.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:15
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I'd go straight to "In the Beginning" the Jenny Isnardi Watkins book.Its brilliant,absolutely the most unintentionally hilarious book i have ever read.She seems to have a photographic memory for inane chatter,or she carried a tape recorder around for most of her teenage years.Anyway its rubbish but very entertaining rubbish
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Old 09-02-2007, 14:19
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Loads of the Simon Price book is just lifted straight from magazine interviews with the band but presented as though it was confided in SP over a cuppa. He wants to be their best friend, which makes the book a bit sucky when you start reading more independent accounts. Its still a good book though, gives you a decent timeline even if there are some factual inaccuracies (although I've only ever heard people say that very generally, never provide comparisons of what SP said and an 'accurate' account of the same event)
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Old 09-02-2007, 14:31
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Try to track down the NME Originals Magazine allot better than all the books out there.
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Old 09-02-2007, 16:30
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I've got that magazine. There is a letter in it from 'Peter Doherty', who sounds like a Smiths fan.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:10
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The Simon Price book is the best, which ain't saying much. Apparently there's quite a lot of factually incorrect information
Reiterating not you's point here, everyone says this but nobody ever seems to be able to point out any of it. About the only thing I could spot was a slight misquotation of the lyrics of Prologue to History.
If you're only going for one book I'd get Price's but I'll have to stick up for the Mick Middles one here. I was a bit dubious when I got it cos I thought he was a hack cashing in on a temporarily high-profile act but he's actually got a real passion for the band and has done a lot of original research, particularly on the lads' schooldays and the early years of the band. I you read NME Originals you'll see Price has lifted a lot of stuff directly from there but I don't get that sense as strongly with Middles. I'd go so far as to say that Everything's superiority lies almost entirely in its being longer and better presented.
I wonder how many people dismissing the Middles book have actually read it with an open mind.

Re the Pete Doherty thing, I seem to remember it was discussed at length in another thread, and I think it was concluded that it probably was him, can't remember on what basis though...

p.s. Isn't there one called Prole Art Threat as well? It can't be up to much cos nobody ever mentions it, not even to rubbish it, but it's sure got the catchiest title...
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:13
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Re the Pete Doherty thing, I seem to remember it was discussed at length in another thread, and I think it was concluded that it probably was him, can't remember on what basis though...
Pete Doherty confirmed himself that it was he who wrote the letter {there was this big write in NME about it last year, after Manics fans noticed it in NME Originals years before it } 'caused a flood of Doherty fan boys to seek out the magazine.

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Old 10-02-2007, 02:43
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I'm pretty sure Prole Art Threat never came out.
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Old 10-02-2007, 04:59
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Ask to read dissertations from '98 and '99 when cool cymru was in play and many accademic papers were being written on the manics - many by their post-grad masters/phd peers who reside in Newport/Blackwood/Caerphilly in Wales. Insider gossip just seeping out of every sentence!
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:55
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I'm pretty sure Prole Art Threat never came out.
It didn't, no. Although it was on pre-order from Amazon for about three years. It was another pretty straightforward biography again, apparently.

I was talking to a publisher a while back who was involved with Prole Art Threat; he said the guy who was writing it did a bit of a Richey - he got up to writing about 1994 and just vanished. His mom even phoned the publisher to see if they'd heard from the guy.





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Old 10-02-2007, 11:17
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Ask to read dissertations from '98 and '99 when cool cymru was in play and many accademic papers were being written on the manics - many by their post-grad masters/phd peers who reside in Newport/Blackwood/Caerphilly in Wales. Insider gossip just seeping out of every sentence!
Have there been many of these? And from which unis?

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