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I enjoy how my user icon is basically always imbuing my posts with an unintended sipping air but this time it really needed drawing attention to.
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The thing is they wouldn't, and as loads of people have said, the band have only ever behaved in a totally dignified way and show their love and respect for Richey at every gig. I'm furious about this and cant even begin to think about how the band must feel, Nicky in particular. He must be devastated.
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Oh, wow! That settles it, then. This just gets weirder and weirder. (Referring to Granny Kezia here).
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Sofarsideways, is there anything you can tell us about the bits with the antisemitic tone? Thank you.
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They also neglect to mention his first (traumatic) sexual experience, having gotten ex girlfriends to open up about everything prior to that, and dismiss his groupie-ing as ‘occasional dalliances’. He really wanted to be with Jo, look at all this proof!... which suggests he didn’t at all. It’s like this constantly. They try to make Nicky look bad and Jo perfect, and end up pointing to all the conclusions they don’t want you to come to by trying to twist things. This, I hasten to make clear, is my reading and may not be others’, for sure. But I ain’t picking up what’s not there, you know? I guess people will see for themselves (unless the book goes under). I think it’s obvious without having anything in mind, but. Jo is treated as the oracle in this book, what she says is fact even though the latest her contributions are dated (they’re letters or recalled conversations) is 1998, I think. When she would have been 23. We have to keep how young she was in mind, and that she was dealing with trauma, was obviously biased, etc. That said, if she is, as the book keeps insisting, ‘the closest person to Richey’ and his confidante, the conclusion she came to is pretty something, yet it’s given basically no screen time. Instead we hear about the entire two weeks her and Richey were officially together this one time, her turning down his proposal and him basically shrugging and leaving, etc. Also it’s casually mentioned that they knew each other for four years, so they met when she was 15. Make of that what you will. They don’t paint this as Nicky’s big wrong-doing, anyway, because that would involve taking it seriously. It’s more his entire character/existence they have a problem with. Regardless of anything, as you say, if Richey had such feelings, he did NOT want them made public. That’s always been my concern with voicing such opinions, but team Withdrawn Traces don’t seem to give a shit. So now it’s out there. As are tonnes of other things that shouldn’t be.
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Here's a theory, is the aforementioned legal trouble between the authors of the book and Rachel? It's perfectly plausible that the authors went further in their remit than they explained to Rachel I.e. off record conversations becoming on record conversations . This is speculation on my part, but it could be that Rachel only recently looked at the finished product and balked.
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A thing. There is a list of the box contents ‘from memory, in a letter from Jo to Rachel’. Again when the letter is from is unclear. Why would it be from memory in a letter? She also forgets several things we know were in it, such as the tape of Naked and, oddly, the ‘I Love You’ note. Now. Later on, a Spider-Man notebook of Richey’s is mentioned, on which he has drawn a speech bubble saying ‘I love you’, which the authors then for some reason point out is ‘the same as the message he apparently left for Jo’. Apparently? I thought it was meant to be very clearly for her?
This made me think. Richey actually wrote ‘I love you’ on quite a lot of stuff. If I recall it’s on some of the artwork in the JFPL booklet, for instance. So was this ‘I love you’ actually part of the box artwork, which would explain why Jo didn’t list it when it’s meant to be A Big Thing, and would also potentially completely change the implication of it. We are meant to believe Jo is who Richey is talking about in his final interview - which already doesn’t make sense, he hadn’t ‘only kissed her once or twice’ - but in WT there are letters to Jo in which Richey says ‘I love you’. So that was not the big tragic THE WORDS HE COULDN’T SAY!! we were told it was, and makes what he was saying in his last interview make even less sense. Yes yes I’ve gone all in what do you want
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That briefly crossed my mind, too. But it's sounding more and more like wishful thinking. Besides, if the band aren't suing the ever-loving shite out of the authors, they should be. |
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If anything the band or their management, are probably attempting to have bits of the book cut out. They are probably trying to avoid a media headline like "The Manic Street Preachers sueing Richie Manic's sister for telling the truth".
I've been keeping an eye on the page count on Amazon to see if it shifts with the changing release date. Sofa, what's the page count on your copy?
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336 officially (including end pages etc), 322 numbered.
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Well that smells funny then, maybe a clerical error but it does seem like it's being cut in places.
I suppose there's none of Richey's creative work in there?
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Some collages of photos of uni friends which seem intended as evidence in the The Band Were Not His Real Friends case, some doodles. It’s mostly childhood/teenage writing in which - ZOMG - he uses some of the same words he would later use in lyrics?! Le gasp
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