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Old 06-11-2010, 17:13
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SATT marks the beginning of me losing interest in the Manics, at least at an obsessed level. There's nothing that wrong with the album, I just never listened to it much and I don't really know it that well.
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Old 06-11-2010, 17:16
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SATT marks the beginning of me losing interest in the Manics, at least at an obsessed level. There's nothing that wrong with the album, I just never listened to it much and I don't really know it that well.
I was a bit like that with Lifeblood
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Old 08-11-2010, 23:28
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1. Send Away The Tigers - 4/5
2. Underdogs - 2/5
3. Your Love Alone Is Not Enough - 5/5
4. Indian Summer - 4/5
5. The Second Great Depression - 4/5
6. Rendition - 4/5
7. Autumnsong - 2/5
8. I'm Just A Patsy - 2/5
9. Imperial Bodybags - 3/5
10. Winterlovers - 3/5

For me, if you take off every song with a 3 star rating or below and replace them with the best of the b-sides from this era, SATT would be one of the best albums the Manics ever recorded. As it stands it's a mediocre album that just happens to have a handful of great tunes on it. A bit like GATS really.
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Old 08-11-2010, 23:47
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At the time, I wasn't an obsessive fan, had heard many of the singles.
To me, it just seemed like the band had just given up every ounce of meaning, and released the blandest, radio friendly thing they could, because they were scared nobody cared, something that's finally caught up with them given PFAYM's relative failure.
Nowadays, I've warmed to it, there are moments of real beauty and feeling (SGD, YLAINE, Autumnsong in places), but nestled in that is moments of forgettable blandness. Atleast most other, widely considered 'bad' manics moments are memorable for being different, i.e MEDD and SWSS. Whilst the Manics felt it rejuvinated themselves, to me it just sounded like a band giving up their heart in favour off success. I understand they've always wanted to send a mass message, mass communication, but there was no real message with SATT, the only album I can really say that about.
Still, it brought them back, gave them confidence. I think the majority of besides, indeed since God Save the Manics, are much better than the content on SATT
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Old 09-11-2010, 00:25
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For instance, I couldn't see James ever fitting the lyrics to She Bathed Herself In A Bath Of Bleach to the music for Postcards. Does this mean they were as constrained making JFLP by the tone as they were making PFAYM by their determination for commercial success?
idk, Picturesque has lyrics that made it onto JfPL and I think it's fairly rubbish, musically. but then the overall sound of JfPL is what the Manics would sound like if I were in charge
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Old 09-11-2010, 00:33
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Liked it at the time, but not so much anymore. There are some great tracks on there such as Underdogs, Indian Summer, Rendition, Imperial Bodybags... even Patsy...but other than that commercial nonsense much like the recent album. SATT and PFAYM are like two sore thumbs that stick out amongst the greatness of the Manics from 1994-2009.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:14
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Old 09-11-2010, 15:43
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1. Send Away The Tigers - 4/5
2. Underdogs - 2/5
3. Your Love Alone Is Not Enough - 5/5
4. Indian Summer - 4/5
5. The Second Great Depression - 4/5
6. Rendition - 4/5
7. Autumnsong - 2/5
8. I'm Just A Patsy - 2/5
9. Imperial Bodybags - 3/5
10. Winterlovers - 3/5

For me, if you take off every song with a 3 star rating or below and replace them with the best of the b-sides from this era, SATT would be one of the best albums the Manics ever recorded. As it stands it's a mediocre album that just happens to have a handful of great tunes on it. A bit like GATS really.
I think this should have been the album

1 Send Away the Tigers
2 Your Love Alone is Not Enough
3 Boxes and Lists
4 Indian Summer
5 The Second Great Depression
6 Rendition
7 Love Letter to the Future
8 Welcome to the Deadzone
9 Morning Comrades
10 Autumnsong (fuck the haters, the melodies are great )
11 Imperial Bodybags
12 Fearless Punk Ballad

Would still clock in under 45 minutes, so a perfectly reasonable album.
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Old 09-11-2010, 17:03
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I absolutely love Welcome to the Dead Zone, James' vocals are just simply amazing on it. It's such a wonderful song.
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Old 09-11-2010, 17:04
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The Manics are obviously not trying hard to enough to write something that I hate!
You're like me Gutless. We just love everything they do! Probably the worst kind of fan
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Old 09-11-2010, 21:34
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You're like me Gutless. We just love everything they do! Probably the worst kind of fan
Nicky thinks we're deluded! Oh well! Tough!
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Old 09-11-2010, 22:15
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1. Send Away The Tigers - 3/5
2. Underdogs - 1/5
3. Your Love Alone Is Not Enough - 4/5
4. Indian Summer - 4/5
5. The Second Great Depression - 3/5
6. Rendition - 3/5
7. Autumnsong - 1/5
8. I'm Just A Patsy - 4/5
9. Imperial Bodybags - 4/5
10. Winterlovers - 3/5
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Old 10-11-2010, 07:21
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Autumnsong - 5/5 for me!
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Old 10-11-2010, 19:27
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The B-Sides are without doubt, much better than the album tracks. If they'd taken off 50% of the songs and replaced them with any B-sides from that era it would've been an excellent album hands down. Although i get the feeling that if they'd put Anorexic Roedin on there, it would've been slammed and compared to Iron Maiden straight away! Because lets face it, it's a Maiden song!
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Old 10-11-2010, 19:30
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SATT and PFAYM are like two sore thumbs that stick out amongst the greatness of the Manics from 1994-2009.
I'd say more like fetid, gangrenous limbs.
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