The 'This is My Truth…' Discussion Thread

[Lydia]

I thought Mafia Monroe was a girl when he joined because of the James love, which of course he's not, so posting in appreciation doesn't necessarily mean a person is a girl.

[The Gutless Wonder]

Originally Posted by sherlock

*has just stuck a toe into the 'James Appreciation Thread'*

*runs away screaming*

Ha! Ha! And as Lydia says it's not just the girls who frequent in there!

[riot_star]

Originally Posted by Lydia

I thought Mafia Monroe was a girl when he joined because of the James love, which of course he's not, so posting in appreciation doesn't necessarily mean a person is a girl.

That's a good point!

[sherlock]

Originally Posted by The Gutless Wonder

Ha! Ha! And as Lydia says it's not just the girls who frequent in there!

Hey, I'm not immune to my feminism - it's just that was rather intense, that's all!

[The Gutless Wonder]

Originally Posted by sherlock

Hey, I'm not immune to my feminism - it's just that was rather intense, that's all!

He! He! I imagine it is scary in there for the uninitiated!

[Bryter Layter]

Originally Posted by centralscrutiniser

I've never really understood the commercial comments about this album. Maybe I'm just wrong, but aside from the first four tracks it sounds the opposite of commercial!

Agreed! In fact, with the exception of THB, everything prior to Truth was far more commercial sounding then this album. I think perhaps given it's success (largely due to the following they had achieved with EMG) some people have confused the sales of the album with a commercial sound...I don't hear it personally (with the exception of a few songs), but horses for course and all that.

I actually really love this album (Ready for Drowning is lush as is My Little Empire, but admittedly, I could do without Tsunami as well as the painfully cheese lyrics to The Everlasting). It's fairly consistently remained in my top 4 Manics albums and I've never quite understood the hate it gets from some fans. Oh well, to each their own.

[Mr Richey]

As nobody has done this yet, I'm going to give my star ratings for each track on TIMTTMY. Stars out of 5, as always:

1. The Everlasting - 5/5
2. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next - 5/5
3. You Stole The Sun From My Heart - 3/5
4. Ready For Drowning - 5/5
5. Tsunami - 4/5
6. My Little Empire - 5/5
7. I'm Not Working - 4/5
8. You're Tender And You're Tired - 3/5
9. Born A Girl - 5/5
10. Be Natural - 3/5
11. Black Dog On My Shoulder - 4/5
12. Nobody Loved You - 4/5
13. SYMM - music 4/5, lyrics 2/5

[The Gutless Wonder]

I've never thought it was a particularly commercial album either. Apart from YSTS.

[Dean V]

Originally Posted by The Gutless Wonder

I've never thought it was a particularly commercial album either. Apart from YSTS.

I agree, the first half can be taken as a form of stadium rock but the second half is anti-stadium rock. I never got why people said "TIMT is stadium rock!" in an insulting way anyway, what the feck was EMG if TIMT was stadium rock?!

[Dean V]

Originally Posted by Richey83

As nobody has done this yet, I'm going to give my star ratings for each track on TIMTTMY. Stars out of 5, as always:

1. The Everlasting - 5/5
2. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next - 5/5
3. You Stole The Sun From My Heart - 3/5
4. Ready For Drowning - 5/5
5. Tsunami - 4/5
6. My Little Empire - 5/5
7. I'm Not Working - 4/5
8. You're Tender And You're Tired - 3/5
9. Born A Girl - 5/5
10. Be Natural - 3/5
11. Black Dog On My Shoulder - 4/5
12. Nobody Loved You - 4/5
13. SYMM - music 4/5, lyrics 2/5

1. The Everlasting - 5/5
2. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next - 5/5
3. You Stole The Sun From My Heart - 3/5
4. Ready For Drowning - 5/5
5. Tsunami - 5/5
6. My Little Empire - 5/5
7. I'm Not Working - 5/5
8. You're Tender And You're Tired - 4/5
9. Born A Girl - 4/5
10. Be Natural - 5/5
11. Black Dog On My Shoulder - 5/5
12. Nobody Loved You - 5/5
13. SYMM - 3/5

Good idea, sire.

[Flint]

Tracks 1-13 - 5/5

:D

(well, You Stole the Sun might be 4/5 but WHO CARES)

[ForeverDelayed.com]

Originally Posted by Dean V

1. The Everlasting - 5/5
2. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next - 5/5
3. You Stole The Sun From My Heart - 3/5
4. Ready For Drowning - 5/5
5. Tsunami - 5/5
6. My Little Empire - 5/5
7. I'm Not Working - 5/5
8. You're Tender And You're Tired - 4/5
9. Born A Girl - 4/5
10. Be Natural - 5/5
11. Black Dog On My Shoulder - 5/5
12. Nobody Loved You - 5/5
13. SYMM - 3/5

Good idea, sire.

I LIKE TOO.

1. The Everlasting - 4/5
2. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next - 4/5
3. You Stole The Sun From My Heart - 4/5
4. Ready For Drowning - 4/5
5. Tsunami - 4/5
6. My Little Empire - 3/5
7. I'm Not Working - 4/5
8. You're Tender And You're Tired - 3/5
9. Born A Girl - 3/5
10. Be Natural - 2/5
11. Black Dog On My Shoulder - 5/5
12. Nobody Loved You - 3/5
13. SYMM - 4/5

[Littlesue]

I rememeber it winning a poll once for best 'dinner party' album

[hummingbird]

Originally Posted by Littlesue

I rememeber it winning a poll once for best 'dinner party' album

haha all the blokes singing along to born a girl after a few vinos would be a sight to see

[The Gutless Wonder]

A sales manager where I work mentioned Truth as being the last album he bought in the company magazine. That was yonkers ago but made me smile at the time!