What was their turning point gig? Their first show as a signed band?

[GretschGuitar]

What was their turning point gig? Their first show as a signed band?
Are there any clips of any of these shows on YouTube?

[Takk]

What do you mean turning point?

[franny]

They don't really have one do they? There was never one gig that made a particularly huge impact, they all contributed. I guess the Bull and Gate gig if anything?

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by franny

They don't really have one do they? There was never one gig that made a particularly huge impact, they all contributed. I guess the Bull and Gate gig if anything?

if i interpret the question a certain way, i would imagine the "turning point" was the cover and subequent success of Suicide Is Painless, something that turned them from another abstract hippie indie band with with limited success into a band even the non-music press reported on.

[franny]

Originally Posted by starstruck

if i interpret the question a certain way, i would imagine the "turning point" was the cover and subequent success of Suicide Is Painless, something that turned them from another abstract hippie indie band with with limited success into a band even the non-music press reported on.

A perfectly valid point, and one I would concur with, though the lad was asking which gig was the turning point rather than release.

[Scarecrow]

No idea really. We generally don't hear much about 1990 gigs and they released New Art Riot that year, so I'm thinking something around the Heavenly days. Maybe Norwich '91 (the 4 real night)?

[starstruck]

if it's a turning point for success / longevity and it is about a gig, surely then their support slot for Bon Jovi would be the answer? around 93 or 94, wasn't it? i think it was at something called the Milton Keynes Bowl or something like that. that probably gave them a bigger audience than they had played to before?

[Nature's Discontent]

Reading 1992 perhaps, if that counts. I think Nicky said it was the first time he realised they had so many fans or something. They were expecting hardly anyone to turn up, and a few people first took to them then, who had previously just dismissed them as NME hype.

[Dext37 Fielding]

Sleepflower.

[Dancing Kirby]

All I know is what the turning point for me was. When I first heard Motorcycle Emptiness played on Radio 1 by this guy:



You Love Us on TOTP got my attention but ME got my money.

[Takk]

Originally Posted by starstruck

if it's a turning point for success / longevity and it is about a gig, surely then their support slot for Bon Jovi would be the answer? around 93 or 94, wasn't it? i think it was at something called the Milton Keynes Bowl or something like that. that probably gave them a bigger audience than they had played to before?

Depends what you mean by turning point i guess. that seems more like an ongoing milestone than a turning point.

[Manualex16]

When Richey joined the manics.

[nozzer]

Im guessing maybe their first London gig as well? Or maybe, as stupid as this might sound, when JDB got his first Gibson White Les Paul Custom. This is a very good question... when was the moment when the band realised, 'hey, we can make a living out of this!' Id say this would definately be pre TOTP

[Radiomanic]

The Astoria gigs in 1994, selling out three nights at a fair-sized London venue (equivalent i would think of two nights at Brixton). That was when they became a big band, it no doubt pathed the way for the success of ADFL and EMG.

[slatex]

Without doubt it was the Marquee gig, London, 21st May 1991. They even played an encore!
Met quite a few people down the years who went to this gig & said they looked like they could take the world..

(if, by turning point you mean the band going from Heavenly Records into Sony material/ worthy of the hype to any outsiders looking in/starting to be taken seriously by kerrang and the rock press etc.etc.)