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Old 17-04-2018, 21:43
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Trying to deduce if worth buying the 2CD set - I ration my extra fivers more these days. After a quick listen online, am not hugely enamoured with either Concrete or Soundtrack, so it's whether the demos fill in the gaps of what they were aiming for, but might have airbrushed out in the finished versions. Thoughts?
These demos work well as a legitimate version of the album without all the Eringa gloss.

I don’t think they’re the original demos in a lot of cases though.
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Old 17-04-2018, 22:11
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Bought it as a present for someone later in the year. Get dem sales in the first week yo!
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Old 18-04-2018, 02:28
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I think we need to fix this chart in some way.... fuck it, I'm going to hmv tomorrow to buy the vinyl, and I don't even own one of those record player things!! I WILL NOT LOSE to Hugh fucking Jackman
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Old 18-04-2018, 02:35
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That's a total bummer, but it's also basically MSP in a nutshell. I'm just glad they can come out with albums that consistently reach the top 2-3 this late into their career. I will never understand the appeal of The Greatest Showman soundtrack, but it's also gone completely gangbusters here in the US as well.
Where do you get these figures from?

I'm hoping Martin Hall walks into chart offices at the last minute and says here's an extra 5000 pre orders you haven't accounted for.... FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!!!!
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Old 18-04-2018, 04:38
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Just listened to Concrete Fields and A Soundtrack to Complete Withdrawal.
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Old 18-04-2018, 07:19
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Just listened to 45 seconds of Mirror Gaze.

So Sega.
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Old 18-04-2018, 08:03
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Just listened to 45 seconds of Mirror Gaze.

So Sega.
Oh, it sounds great (intro especially, I see what you mean!). Feeling better about that pricey package heading my way from Japan now!
Glad to see you got to the heart of the matter
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Old 18-04-2018, 08:26
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Is there any way to listen to Holding Patterns or Mirror Gaze online yet?
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Old 18-04-2018, 09:22
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I can't work out if I love or hate Vivian. It's a bit 'Turning Japanese'.

Great album - it's the best out of the triumvirate of SATT, PFAYM and RIF. And a big banker for the band, so we'll no doubt see PFAYM3 soon
I don't know if we're going to be looking at PFAYM3 you know.. My biggest disappointments from this album is there doesn't seem to be much fire in there, it's quite tame. I mean I love their more introspective and tender moments, This Is My Truth is probably my joint second favourite behind Holy Bible...

I don't know what I was expecting really, was hoping for it to be more defiant than resigned but suppose that's just life. People get tired, people get old eh. I dunno though... Alright, I've got no more idea what it's like growing up in the valleys in the 80s than they have the struggles people face today and alright I was 9 in 92 but feel like there must be more fucked up shit in the world to get pissed off about today than there was then. Maybe it's just a primacy/recency thing, and the fact I was 9..

I do take encouragement from a few things. They've got form for reacting against themselves anyway so wouldn't expect the next album to be in a similar vein to this. Read a bit the other day about Wire waxing lyrical about Stormzy's performance at the Brits and even though what I've heard of his music isn't my thing, I loved the passion and energy of it and if that's going to inspire Nicky I think that's got to be a good thing. Then there was the Absolute Radio thing with James doing Garageland - the lad looked absolutely in his fucking element, still got the punk in him, maybe it'll come out next time.
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Old 18-04-2018, 10:18
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Well Today's the day I play "A Song For The Sadness" over and over then!
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Old 18-04-2018, 12:22
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After a few listens I'm struggling to get into this album, but I will give it a bit more time before giving a final judgement. Dylan & Caitlin being on it doesn't help. Already in my top 3 least favourite manics tracks.
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Old 18-04-2018, 12:23
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However, my brain keeps playing Vivian, International Blue and Distant Colours on repeat.
Me today!
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Old 18-04-2018, 12:37
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I don't know if we're going to be looking at PFAYM3 you know.. My biggest disappointments from this album is there doesn't seem to be much fire in there, it's quite tame. I mean I love their more introspective and tender moments, This Is My Truth is probably my joint second favourite behind Holy Bible...

I don't know what I was expecting really, was hoping for it to be more defiant than resigned but suppose that's just life. People get tired, people get old eh. I dunno though... Alright, I've got no more idea what it's like growing up in the valleys in the 80s than they have the struggles people face today and alright I was 9 in 92 but feel like there must be more fucked up shit in the world to get pissed off about today than there was then. Maybe it's just a primacy/recency thing, and the fact I was 9..

I do take encouragement from a few things. They've got form for reacting against themselves anyway so wouldn't expect the next album to be in a similar vein to this. Read a bit the other day about Wire waxing lyrical about Stormzy's performance at the Brits and even though what I've heard of his music isn't my thing, I loved the passion and energy of it and if that's going to inspire Nicky I think that's got to be a good thing. Then there was the Absolute Radio thing with James doing Garageland - the lad looked absolutely in his fucking element, still got the punk in him, maybe it'll come out next time.
To be totally honest, I wasn't really so sure about the title of the album and cover picture at first, but after reading and hearing the various interviews (great to have so many to work through) I guess they sum up the place Nicky Wire in particular finds himself in.

He has said in interviews, things that are very close to him in his life life have changed and are changing in unimaginable ways, much like the Japanese samurai in the cover picture. I guess there comes an acceptance that trying to resist those changes is indeed futile, but that there can still be a sense of defiance and pride.

I think the album perfectly captures that conflict of acceptance / rage that he has written about before.
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Old 18-04-2018, 13:37
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for me:

high points =

Hold Me Like a Heaven, obviously
Distant Colours
People Give In
Concrete Fields being an actually listenable (dare I say enjoyable?) Nicky vocal

low points =

Vivian - can't get the love some have for this one at all
Dylan & Caitlin - strings still too much for me, although quite enjoy the live acoustic take
all the bits where it sounds like Queen doing a Lloyd-Webber musical

haven't listened to the demos yet, need to be 100% familiar with the album proper before I'll be able to recognise / appreciate the differences.
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Old 18-04-2018, 13:47
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I don't know if we're going to be looking at PFAYM3 you know...
I'm really going to defend this album to the hilt against accusations of it being another PFAYM.

There is so much depth in this album - both in terms of lyrical content and the craft of the songs. I still do think that the sound of the album is very close to PFAYM - and this I blame on the Dave Eringa and Jimbo combo - but there is an earnestness in RiF that puts it on another level. It just doesn't seem or sound as calculated as PFAYM or even Futurology.
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