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Old 04-08-2011, 21:21
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Ultimate Manics album: Track vs. track

Ok I really am bored but here it goes.

Was thinking the other day of making a Manics playlist for a mate and found myself falling into the issue of making MY Manics album (i.e. my fav songs) vs. THE Manics album (i.e. including the classics even though I might be bored with them).

So I thought about this: I would make a 12 song album by putting each corresponding track up against each other, e.g. Slash n Burn vs. Sleepflower vs. Yes vs. Elvis, etc etc etc.

So this is my album:

1. Yes
2. Design For Life
3. Your Love Alone
4. Motorcycle Emptiness
5. Archives of Pain
6. My Little Empire
7. Facing Page Top Left
8. Marlon J.D.
9. Faster
10. Solitude Sometimes Is
11. Die In The Summertime
12. No Surface All Feeling

Pretty standard Nicky set-list really. Maybe there is a method to his madness.

These are the main findings (acknowledgements given in brackets)

- Track no.2 probably has the strongest Manics songs
- all the Manics No.8s (bar Marlon) are cack
- Journal's opening 4 song sequence is by far the strongest 4 songs in any album (and yet none make it onto my album)
- The Bible's no. 9,10,11 sequence is by far the strongest 'towards the end of the album' sequence
- 12 seems to be the perfect number for a Manics album. Go past song 12 and you're into murky waters.
- Postcards from a Young Man, in my objective analysis, is by far their weakest album. By far.
- [Ermintrude the Cow] both of their most obvious "this one's about Richey, you can all cry now" tracks are no. 12's.
- Seemingly the hardest song to leave out is Peeled Apples.
- No.7 has the most split vote.

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Old 04-08-2011, 21:37
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Disagree with the analysis of Postcards!
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Old 04-08-2011, 23:03
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- Journal's opening 4 song sequence is by far the strongest 4 songs in any album (and yet none make it onto my album)
- The Bible's no. 9,10,11 sequence is by far the strongest 'towards the end of the album' sequence
- Postcards from a Young Man, in my objective analysis, is by far their weakest album. By far.
Definitely agree with the above. I often find myself re-listening to 1-4 on JFPL and then move onto something else without listening to the whole album through, even though I enjoy it full-length as well, the first four are just so powerful.

My list by this method (more often a favorite choice than a best):
1. Peeled Apples
2. A Design for Life
3. You Stole the Sun From My Heart
4. Motorcycle Emptiness
5. Archives of Pain
6. Love's Sweet Exile
7. Wattsville Blues
8. Marlon J.D.
9. Born a Girl
10. All is Vanity
11. Die in the Summertime
12. No Surface All Feeling
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:30
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It was tough leaving some out - Motorcycle Emptiness for example - I just love Enola / Alone! But here is mine...

Yes
Design For Life
Me and Stephen Hawking
Enola / Alone
Life Becoming A Landslide
Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky
Facing Page: Top Left
Marlon JD
A Billion Balconies Facing The Sun
Solitude Sometimes IS
Die In The Summertime
No Surface / All Feeling
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Old 05-08-2011, 10:51
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This was hard. Really, really difficult. I ended up having to make a spreadsheet
Anyway:

1. Yes
2. From Despair to Where
3. Some Kind of Nothingness
4. Enola/Alone
5. Archives of Pain
6. Love's Sweet Exile
7. Little Baby Nothing
8. Marlon JD
9. Faster
10. All is Vanity
11. Stay Beautiful
12. Nobody Loved You


Oh, and I'd disagree that no. 8's are the weakest tracks, choosing between Marlon and Removables was heart-wrenching.
Agree re Postcards being the weakest album, although I've included one from that and nothing from SATT or Lifeblood, both of which I'm more likely to listen to than Postcards. Very odd, though I guess some things just work better in context?

My observation - both of their most obvious "this one's about Richey, you can all cry now" tracks are no. 12's.
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:00
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This is a belter of a thread! Here's mine

1. Peeled Apples
2. A Design For Life
3. Kevin Carter
4. She Is Suffering
5. Everything Must Go
6. She Bathed Herself in a Bath of Bleach
7. Golden Platitudes
8. Marlon JD
9. Faster
10. This Is Yesterday (acoustic)
11. Black Dog On My Shoulder
12. No Surface All Feeling

Found tracks 6 and 7 very difficult. Had to leave off SBFTGITS and 4st&lbs
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:09
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This is a major project - still working on mine...superb thread
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Old 05-08-2011, 17:12
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I was thinking maybe we could have an 'Bizzarro-Ultimate Manics album' where we pick our least favourite / worst tracks per track number too?

Several tracks might well be different every day, but for today at least...

Ultimate
1. Sleepflower
2. A Design for Life
3. Intravenous Agnostic
4. Motorcycle Emptiness
5. Tsunami
6. To Repel Ghosts
7. 4st 7lb
8. You're Tender and You're Tired
9. Faster
10. All We Make Is Entertainment
11. Die in the Summertime
12. No Surface All Feeling

A track of KYE and nothing off JFPL?! I know, right?!

Bizzarro
1. Slash 'n' Burn
2. Underdogs
3. Born to End
4. The Descent (Pages 1 & 2)
5. You Love Us
6. Love's Sweet Exile
7. Wattsville Blues
8. Repeat (Stars and Stripes)
9. Tennessee
10. Another Invented Disease
11. My Guernica
12. So Dead


Not kind to GT when I do that! And Wattsville Blues stops me putting Autumnsong in ... gah, decisions! lol.
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Old 05-08-2011, 17:51
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1. The Everlasting
2. Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
3. Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
4. So Why So Sad
5. You Love Us
6. Revol
7. Roses In The Hospital
8. Removables
9. A Billion Balconies Facing The Sun
10. Solitude Sometimes Is
11. The Masses Against The Classes
12. Sculpture Of Man
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Old 05-08-2011, 18:10
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1. It's Not War (Just The End Of Love)
2. A Design For Life
3. Intravenous Agnostic
4. Indian Summer
5. Archives Of Pain
6. To Repel Ghosts
7. Roses In The Hospital
8. You're Tender And You're Tired
9. Faster
10. This Is Yesterday
11. My Guernica
12. Virginia State Epileptic Colony

I think I've won the thread.
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Old 05-08-2011, 18:38
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1) Elvis Impersonator
2) A Design for Life
3) Empty Souls
4) Motorcycle Emptiness
5) You Love Us
6) To Repel Ghosts
7) 4st 7lbs
8) Marlon J.D.
9) Faster
10) All is Vanity
11) Further Away
12) The Convalescent
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Old 05-08-2011, 18:42
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No way I can do this. Too many songs I'd want on there!
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Old 05-08-2011, 18:50
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Yeah, you're gonna have Gutless contemplating this one for the rest of her life.
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Old 05-08-2011, 19:48
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Old 05-08-2011, 20:20
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Yeah, you're gonna have Gutless contemplating this one for the rest of her life.
I know! As if life wasn't stressful enough!
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