I'm just too excited about all this to think straight :lol:

Will the deluxe edition include additional tracks? If the album is coming out in June then when can we expect the first single?

I'd say it's an error on Play/Amazon based on some faulty data given to them, or something. If this really is another attempt to do something a bit more popular, they'd be slinging into full promotional gear with it, which would mean that lead single would already be doing rounds very soon if the album release was in under a month.

There's no way it's coming out at the end of June. We'd have to time travel back to three or four weeks ago to argue about the promo leak.

You know, I can't say I really blame the Manics for wanting 'one last shot at mass communication'. JFPL was a real love letter to the fans as well as being one of the best albums they've ever recorded. If they were to try and emulate that again, it would not only take some of the shine off JFPL but it would also be boring. Whatever they've done, and whether or not we've liked it, the Manics have always done something a bit different with each new album and that's something to be applauded.

So if they now want to take a last stab at reaching the levels of popularity they achieved with EMG, then I say that's great. How many other artists in their 40's still have the passion to want to make great pop music? I think that instead of people whinging about how this won't be another JFPL or how it will be more like SATT that we should all totally support this. Because if the Manics' popularity becomes huge again at this stage, there is a big enough back catalogue of work for new listeners to become pulled in and continue to keep the Manics in the popular consciousness.

Does any of that make a bit of sense?

fecking quality post - couldnt agree more!

I like it, but it does really remind me of the New Order one. Even though that album is 9 years old now. That cover is still very fresh in my memory.

Well the official site says september and did say 20th....so i doubt this june date is right.

when does the competition close??

I think the one aligned to the right is compositionally pretty weak, loses all impact. Looks trite and forced.

Well I just think it's true mate. As their fans, we should want the Manics to be as successful as possible. We should want them to be in the public's eye and want more people to hear their music. Like I said, I haven't always enjoyed it when they've done something a bit different (LB is good but has no passion, KYE is a fucking mess) but I still love the fact that they don't just churn out the same old noise with each successive album. So if PFAYM turns out to be a mixture of EMG/SATT then that's wonderful because it's another opportunity for them to draw in an audience. The less commercial records they've done then become another side to the band for the new audience to discover.

And fuck it, SATT was not intelligent but it's still a fun record!! :D

SATT is an awesome album, only bettered by THB and LB

if they feel they can re create their earlier successes then we should be supporting them!! not slating it before its even been heard!

Well said, I'm all for a bit of pop and I'd love to be able to discuss the Manics with some normal people (no offence:))

27/09 on play.com now

August 31st.

The album cover will make a nice poster. I think the cover is one of the best the Manics have had.