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Son of Stopped 16-03-2020 17:37

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Originally Posted by ForeverDelayed.com (Post 2681868)
YES!!!!! My favorite, most listened to, most underrated Manics album.
And the one with the beat memories from that era.

I think it's the band's worst look and physical shape but musically it cancels all that out.
More excited for this box than any other album funnily!

Flint 16-03-2020 18:49

This makes me so excited.

Fear of Motion and Little Trolls in HQ.
Potential unreleased material (original demo of Midnight Sun??)
The chance of getting more KYE album cuts live (always thought the likes of The Convalescent, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs etc would EXPLODE live)

One of their best eras, bound to have some incredible curios in there.

Europa Gluten Free 16-03-2020 21:06

The height of my Manics fandom.

I will pay whatever Wire asks for a shitty shoebox re-issue with fancy stickers. Just make it two separate albums with double vinyl for each. No fucking demos on the vinyl. And a nice book with handwritten lyrics like the original release.

Can't wait.

EDIT: Edit to say take it easy on the visual material. Everyone looked like shit.

handsome_devil 17-03-2020 04:44

I'm all on board if they want to clear the vaults completely.

The Crow 18-03-2020 00:07

WHY

tomd2103 18-03-2020 00:21

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Originally Posted by Glyn (Post 2681861)
Yeah its a lot easier to put the rock/grunge tracks together but I'd say there is a glimmer of a melodic thread running through SWSS, robeson, year of purification, just a kid, baby elian, his last painting, masking tape & royal correspondent. It's tenuous though and there are many songs that don't easily fit into a binary split.

Have always thought that there is a good lo-fi, back to basics album within KYE and it would have been a good fit for them at the time following on from Masses and the accusations that it had all become a bit overblown on This is my Truth. I've always thought that Found That Soul, Ocean Spray, Intravenous, Let Robeson Sing, Year of Purification, Dead Martyrs, The Convalescent, Royal Correspondent, Baby Elian and Freedom of Speech would have made a good, short, concise and to the point album.

I've also always really liked some of the B sides from that album as well as the artwork, so this could be an interesting reissue.

tomd2103 18-03-2020 00:26

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Originally Posted by IntlDebris (Post 2681864)
Which looks like Lifeblood will be the only album without a deluxe edition. Perhaps this new expansive album will allow them to look back more fondly - especially after Solitude Sometimes Is appeared live last year, and James compared Futurology to having the 'sheen' of Lifeblood. It also depends on how much the label would get behind it - it was always a regular in the super-cheap sales at HMV, often going for something like £3... much like Travis's 12 Memories, the label had more faith in its commercial appeal than the public did, and almost certainly had thousands of copies lying around for the longest time.

The Japanese version of Lifeblood is almost like a deluxe edition. If they were to release something along those lines, with maybe There by the Grace of God, Door to the River and Forever Delayed added and it packaged more as an era album as opposed to just Lifeblood, then it might have more of an appeal.

Son of Stopped 18-03-2020 00:30

Of all the visual stuff, I'd love some sort of print of the clean album cover painting.

That's all the why I need

everlasting 18-03-2020 16:41

I popped the cd on last night after hearing about this upcoming re-issue. I really enjoyed it from start to end.

IntlDebris 18-03-2020 16:57

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Originally Posted by tomd2103 (Post 2681912)
The Japanese version of Lifeblood is almost like a deluxe edition. If they were to release something along those lines, with maybe There by the Grace of God, Door to the River and Forever Delayed added and it packaged more as an era album as opposed to just Lifeblood, then it might have more of an appeal.

It really benefits from the album being released after Lipstick Traces, meaning all the b-sides ended up on the second disc. If it doesn't get a deluxe version then the Japanese one is certainly satisfying enough a release, especially with the amount of booklets it comes with. One of my most played Manics CDs.

LA ex 18-03-2020 19:09

I'm not saying it was the best post-Richey era, but it was in many ways the most interesting.

deadmartyr 19-03-2020 09:05

This will always be a special album for me - when I really got into and understood music. I'd had EMG on tape and YSTSFMH on CD for years but had only played them once or twice up to this point.

19 years ago today, I used my double free period at college to walk 2 miles to Virgin Megastore to buy KYE on CD and then listened to it in my sister's CD Walkman.

Following the whole campaign was so exciting at the time because the experience was so new to me

Glyn 19-03-2020 09:43

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Originally Posted by LA ex (Post 2681926)
I'm not saying it was the best post-Richey era, but it was in many ways the most interesting.

I think Journal just pips it for me because the quality control was better but I was thinking the other day that remembering the moment that the manics.co.uk website turned black with the lightning flashes and the solo from Intravenous Agnostic playing still gives me goosebumps.

When they then updated it to include snatches of lyrics too I can remember thinking this is going to be a weird one (Kleenex towels? Teletext? Haile Gebresilase? Beastie Boys ?) and it was! It's easy to forget just how (intentionally) bland they had become during the TIMTTMY era and this really blew that all apart.

Work experience kid played a blinder that day.

Mr Richey 19-03-2020 10:16

I vividly remember the morning Know Your Enemy was released; going to Our Price on my way to college and picking up a copy, listening to it on my purple DiscMan as I walked up to Stourbridge College. Ended up missing the first half an hour of my English lecture so that I could finish listening to the album, sat smoking behind the bike sheds in the car park.

Mr Richey 19-03-2020 10:33

Listening to “Intravenous Agnostic” right now. The lyrics are nonsense, the production is awful and it’s one of JDB’s laziest vocals (sometimes he doesn’t even hit the notes). AND YET...somehow...it’s still a fucking banger. The wall of lead guitar screaming in the middle eighth is just glorious.


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