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IntlDebris 22-08-2021 15:47

As ever, I don't mind with the fucked-with tracklists if they're only on the deluxe editions and the original versions remain in-print. It's not like many people buying a 3CD version won't have an original copy lying around. As long as they don't do something like Mike Oldfield, whose first three albums are now only print as modern remixed versions (see also the Stooges' Raw Power for quite a few years), then it's fine. Deluxe versions are always fanwank, why not go all the way?
It's not clear at exactly what point the two albums concept was reduced to a single album, but I'd quite like to see all the tracks and b-sides split over what their original respective albums were. With a third disc of demos and remixes.

Glyn 22-08-2021 16:50

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Originally Posted by Suicide Aldi (Post 2688352)
Didnt the beasty boys organise those tibetan freedom concerts? That would add up with it being sarcastic.

It was a sarcastic swipe at the fact that they had gone a bit too far up their own arses with the Buddist preaching but it's hardly offensive.

Fully agree on the tracklist. I've said it before (most likely in this thread) but KYE is the one album where they have total licence to mess about as much as possible. Its an absolute mess of an album anyway (and all the better for it) so it's hardly drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa is it ?

Europa Gluten Free 22-08-2021 16:52

Just want the THB/EMG reissue with the double LP, CDs, nice booklet, nice artwork, and maybe some cool (unseen) photos from the time. Some demos would be cool if they did any. Also a remastered Reading would be much better than the likely remastered Cuba gig.

everlasting 22-08-2021 18:33

Thinking about it, this could be a huge box set if they pull out all the stops. The album is 16 tracks, put on all the b-sides and demos, perhaps the Cuba gig as a live CD, maybe do a DVD with a big documentary like they did for for EMG and GT box sets, and lots of cool write ups and photos from the time. Could be really something!

Son of Stopped 22-08-2021 18:57

I wasn't implying anything when I mentioned a dead Beastie Boy. I was just trying to guess what the problem was!

It should be the Mother of all Manics boxes. So hopefully it's still being worked on...

Suicide Aldi 22-08-2021 21:19

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Originally Posted by Son of Stopped (Post 2688358)
I wasn't implying anything when I mentioned a dead Beastie Boy. I was just trying to guess what the problem was!

I know you were not implying anything, im just trying to figure it out too haha.

Son of Stopped 22-08-2021 21:43

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Originally Posted by Suicide Aldi (Post 2688359)
I know you were not implying anything, im just trying to figure it out too haha.

Hopefully the box will be out by the time an orbit of the sun has been completed, and we can finally find out what they meant.

Tim 22-08-2021 23:45

Of course, it does make sense the beastie boys lyric would kinda be a sarky dig at their holier than thou-ness with those free tibet concerts which i don't think i was aware of and fits with the theme of the track. But still, what's the problem with the line? Roi, you've opened up a can of worms here...

rosetree 23-08-2021 02:31

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Originally Posted by Europa Gluten Free (Post 2688356)
Just want the THB/EMG reissue with the double LP, CDs, nice booklet, nice artwork, and maybe some cool (unseen) photos from the time. Some demos would be cool if they did any. Also a remastered Reading would be much better than the likely remastered Cuba gig.


I think that's possibly what the reissue will include, as some of the other albums have.

I hope they include more though and perhaps re do a few videos, Found That Soul possibly with owls and more crowded beaches for SWSS. I hope the booklet includes art, photos and unseen lyrics too.

Europa Gluten Free 23-08-2021 09:26

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Originally Posted by rosetree (Post 2688364)
I think that's possibly what the reissue will include, as some of the other albums have.

I hope they include more though and perhaps re do a few videos, Found That Soul possibly with owls and more crowded beaches for SWSS. I hope the booklet includes art, photos and unseen lyrics too.

I hope so. I bought and love the THB and EMG ones but I would happily pay double for similarly presented KYE and Lifeblood ones.

Porco 23-08-2021 09:45

As fans we will always have better anniversary editions in our heads than they end up producing, but hopefully it’ll be decent.

someone, somewhere, soon 23-08-2021 10:24

For years I've always heard it as a slight against the Beasties and the (probably unwarranted, in hindsight) "holier than thou" image they had around the turn of the millennium, mentioned above.

But reading the complete couplet back now (Little boys with dangerous toys / All bow down to the Beastie Boys), could it not be pointing out the irony of immature, gun toting Americans worshipping such an explicitly pacifist and conscientious set of individuals?

Anaconda Vice 23-08-2021 10:41

The entire verse feels like a dig at the Beastie Boys

"We love to kiss the Dalai Lama's ass/Because he is such a holy man"

Wire was vocal about them in interviews, too. Pretty sure he weighed in on the fartstorm when the Beastie Boys once asked the Prodigy not to play "Smack My Bitch Up" at a festival they were both playing.

Suicide Aldi 23-08-2021 11:59

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Originally Posted by someone, somewhere, soon (Post 2688367)
For years I've always heard it as a slight against the Beasties and the (probably unwarranted, in hindsight) "holier than thou" image they had around the turn of the millennium, mentioned above.

But reading the complete couplet back now (Little boys with dangerous toys / All bow down to the Beastie Boys), could it not be pointing out the irony of immature, gun toting Americans worshipping such an explicitly pacifist and conscientious set of individuals?

I guess its about the beastie boys holier than thou attitude being a symptom of the holier than thou attitude of America at large when it comes to its dealings with other countries.

UEF 23-08-2021 13:56

I suspect it’ll take the form of the TIMT/GATS reissues - a randomly sized book thing with some CDs and a separate vinyl. No videos :( But maybe a Youtube film


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