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Porco 11-12-2018 12:13
Listened again last night the remaster really is a great one.

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Originally Posted by Borderliner (Post 2676647)
Metronome ticking in Born a Girl (alternative version) is quite annoying meh
I don'tick tick tick tick know tick tick tick tick what tick tick tick tick you tick tick tick mea- tick tick tick tick -n. :D

darkanddivine 11-12-2018 18:36
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Originally Posted by burnleybassman (Post 2676648)
This is a very interesting point as the general consensus is that the track listing for the album is very lop sided with and too front-loaded. They may well mix things up.

If they weren't to play the album in order what order should they play it in?
  1. Nobody Loved You
  2. SYMM
  3. Prologue To History
  4. Black Dog On My Shoulder
  5. Be Natural
  6. Born A Girl
  7. You're Tender & You're Tired
  8. I'm Not Working
  9. My Little Empire
  10. Tsunami
  11. Ready For Drowning
  12. You Stole The Sun
  13. If You Tolerate This
  14. The Everlasting

Porco 11-12-2018 18:42
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Originally Posted by darkanddivine (Post 2676653)
  1. Nobody Loved You
  2. SYMM
  3. Prologue To History
  4. Black Dog On My Shoulder
  5. Be Natural
  6. Born A Girl
  7. You're Tender & You're Tired
  8. I'm Not Working
  9. My Little Empire
  10. Tsunami
  11. Ready For Drowning
  12. You Stole The Sun
  13. If You Tolerate This
  14. The Everlasting
There did you what see I!

darkanddivine 11-12-2018 18:53
Not even joking.

Possibly alternate NLY and SYMM depending on the night/crowd. But I think that would be a smashing set. (And some next level trolling to open with the junked track.)

Anaconda Vice 11-12-2018 20:18
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Originally Posted by IrelandCalling4 (Post 2676642)

I suppose the singles back then underwhelmed a bit following the Bible and EMG, the widescreen melancholia so mentioned didnt resonate with me but this weekend was akin to discovering a new treasure from a favourite band. Following Resistance Is Futile (which I love) its been quite an MSP year.
I've been rediscovering the album through this reissue as well.

Had a similar experience with the SATT anniversary release, as I don't buy singles, disc 2 was like a whole new Manics album for me!

Marat Sar 11-12-2018 21:08
As expected, the remastered b-sides in the same order they're presented, just with Prologue to History put as track one and the gaps trimmed so they flow better (long gaps on these) is absolutely amazing. The first three are exceptionally dynamic. A stronger beginning to a manics rock album than the 1-2-3 on KYE or RIF in my opinion. Black Holes sounds especially ferocious in this sequencing. Like a Your Love Alone from hell.

1. Prologue To History
2. Montana / Autumn / 78
3. Black Holes For The Young
4. Valley Boy
5. Socialist Serenade
6. Buildings For Dead People
7. Class Reunion Of The Sunset Marquis (David Holmes Tolerate remix, for good measure)

I like this so much I started buying the gorgeous physical TIMTTMY singles they're from. Off ebay.

Porco 11-12-2018 21:28
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Originally Posted by Marat Sar (Post 2676659)
I like this so much I started buying the gorgeous physical TIMTTMY singles they're from. Off ebay.
Do you have the Tsunami CD singles yet? Its orange and pink CD sleeves have to be seen in person for the full effect IMHO! :D

everlasting 11-12-2018 21:29
I'm looking forward to hearing quality versions of Black Holes and the album in general, and of course the demos (live stuff), but will wait for a price drop as I feel bad asking for it even for a Christmas gift from family. I reckon in about Feb it will drop about a tenner. How good the booklet? Any decent stuff in there, a good new write up, pictures? Glossing pages maybe? Any glaring errors?

Marat Sar 11-12-2018 22:16
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Originally Posted by Porco (Post 2676660)
Do you have the Tsunami CD singles yet? Its orange and pink CD sleeves have to be seen in person for the full effect IMHO! :D
They're making their way over to me as we speak! :D Always seemed sooooo mysterious to me. I started with Evarlasting for the breathtakingly thematic polaroids of reeds, which to me are my no1 visual assotiation with the band, and Tsunami because of the bright sense of mystery I've always felt is in that 4th single...

By the way -- I remember seeing a black-covered fifth single for Black Dog on My Shoulder, with Winston Churchill. It looked really interesting, very alt history. Then I googled for it yesterday and no luck. Was I dreaming? Was it a fan mock-up? Were there plans to release a fifth single -- Black Dog? And most importantly -- does someone have that pic of that single cover?

darkanddivine 11-12-2018 22:47
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Originally Posted by Marat Sar (Post 2676662)
By the way -- I remember seeing a black-covered fifth single for Black Dog on My Shoulder, with Winston Churchill. It looked really interesting, very alt history. Then I googled for it yesterday and no luck. Was I dreaming? Was it a fan mock-up? Were there plans to release a fifth single -- Black Dog? And most importantly -- does someone have that pic of that single cover?
That sounds non-official to me. The only other single I knew of was the Nobody Loved You Japan release. (Unless I missed something at the time.) But my understanding is that there was no 5th single, as they went out on the festival tour in summer 99, followed swiftly with an American tour in Autumn and then into the studio to do Masses before the Millennium show.

IrelandCalling4 11-12-2018 22:50
Adding some of the press photos to diff tracks on my ipod for this album. Anyone have some cool MSP band photos from period besides the usual you'd see on Google Images from '98/'99?

Glyn 12-12-2018 14:57
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Originally Posted by Marat Sar (Post 2676662)

By the way -- I remember seeing a black-covered fifth single for Black Dog on My Shoulder, with Winston Churchill. It looked really interesting, very alt history. Then I googled for it yesterday and no luck. Was I dreaming? Was it a fan mock-up? Were there plans to release a fifth single -- Black Dog? And most importantly -- does someone have that pic of that single cover?
From (admittedly failing) memory it was mentioned as a possible single in an MTV interview with Eddie Temple-Morris but I think that was before Tsunami came out so it was considered as the 4th single.

There was confirmation that Tsunami was the last single because Buildings for Dead People was touted as being a big change of direction and indicative of their next sound. I remember being a bit nonplussed by that at the time as it's just a 'Revolution' knock-off to my ears but in retrospect it does hint at both Rock & Roll Music and Found that Soul.

Would guess it was a fan mock up that you saw but happy to be proved wrong. Didn't the Stay Beautiful site used to have 'alternative' artwork mockups or am I thinking of another site ?

Marat Sar 12-12-2018 15:32
Nice. Thanks for the clarification.

Dancing Kirby 12-12-2018 16:18
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Originally Posted by IrelandCalling4 (Post 2676668)
Adding some of the press photos to diff tracks on my ipod for this album. Anyone have some cool MSP band photos from period besides the usual you'd see on Google Images from '98/'99?
Nicky’s Death of a Polaroid book has all you could ever need and so much you never wanted.

Here’s one for I’m Not Working.

https://i363.photobucket.com/albums/...8FD706697.jpeg

Nobody 13-12-2018 07:11
Again I don't if this has been mentioned but the Japanese version has Train in vain as a bonus track.


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