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Routine Builder 29-07-2022 09:22

Wouldn't be the first time they premiered a new track live, claim it to be the first single off the next album only for it to be relegated to a b-side (e.g. Patrick Bateman).

IntlDebris 30-07-2022 16:09

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Originally Posted by Marat Sar (Post 2693965)
All this talk of Lifeblood era alt versions is making me salivate.

Also, is there a more sublime piece of music than the Saint Etienne remix of There By The Grace Of God by the Manic Street Preachers? One does not dare hope such a thing exists, but it does. And it's every bit as good as it ought to be.

Given the lack of remixes on the KYE reissue, and the immediate low sales expectations for a reissue of an album that ended up with £3 stickers in HMV a year after a release, I kind of ruled out stuff like that expanding it to a 3CD release.
But you are of course absolutely right, it's a stunning piece of music and one that shouldn't be lost to a DVD release of a less well remembered single.

UEF 04-08-2022 19:17

Signed tat bundles still very much on sale

TheUglyLie 04-08-2022 20:34

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Originally Posted by UEF (Post 2694023)
Signed tat bundles still very much on sale

Well this was always the album they wanted to get a lot less attention for 😊 Hopefully this means they’ll be tat left to pick up come next payday 🤞🏻 (I’m looking at you Solidarity T)

Son of Stopped 04-08-2022 20:52

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Originally Posted by UEF (Post 2694023)
Signed tat bundles still very much on sale

Already ordered and even pre-ordered a Soft Machine album for the end of August.
Cos I'm dead fucking sophisticated me.

TheUglyLie 04-08-2022 21:12

Having gone back to the one disc version of KYE, I’m starting to wonder why Baby Elian isn’t on the DTTR disc on the reissue? Thoughts?

Son of Stopped 04-08-2022 21:40

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Originally Posted by TheUglyLie (Post 2694026)
Having gone back to the one disc version of KYE, I’m starting to wonder why Baby Elian isn’t on the DTTR disc on the reissue? Thoughts?

Probably the political angle of it's lyrics. Might be a better fit for Solidarity.
Although I am picturing a Get Me Hennimore situation.
"Now pay attention Hennimore, one of the lyrics on this album is incredibly critical of our main shareholders, the United States of America. On no account should attention be drawn to the song or our company will lose everything! To make it clear I've put an X on the album disc to avoid anything unpleasant happening."
"Right you are, Sir!"
"On a completely unrelated note, they've also recorded an album of more softer songs that we can sell to the fundamentalist part of America! To make sure there's no slip ups, I've put a cross on the album, that if you turn it to one side, looks like an X! Now I trust you to play the softer album, and keep quiet about the more boisterous collection of music. Now, the fundamentalists will be along any minute now. I want you to settle them down and play the music with a cross that's turned on its side that looks more like an X. And keep quiet about the other album that actually has an X on it."
"You can leave it with me, Sir!"
*Dissolve. Office in panic as the guests are horrified by Baby Elian.
Etc

TheUglyLie 05-08-2022 10:57

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Originally Posted by Son of Stopped (Post 2694027)
Probably the political angle of it's lyrics. Might be a better fit for Solidarity.
Although I am picturing a Get Me Hennimore situation.
"Now pay attention Hennimore, one of the lyrics on this album is incredibly critical of our main shareholders, the United States of America. On no account should attention be drawn to the song or our company will lose everything! To make it clear I've put an X on the album disc to avoid anything unpleasant happening."
"Right you are, Sir!"
"On a completely unrelated note, they've also recorded an album of more softer songs that we can sell to the fundamentalist part of America! To make sure there's no slip ups, I've put a cross on the album, that if you turn it to one side, looks like an X! Now I trust you to play the softer album, and keep quiet about the more boisterous collection of music. Now, the fundamentalists will be along any minute now. I want you to settle them down and play the music with a cross that's turned on its side that looks more like an X. And keep quiet about the other album that actually has an X on it."
"You can leave it with me, Sir!"
*Dissolve. Office in panic as the guests are horrified by Baby Elian.
Etc

😂😂😂 Brilliant!

TheUglyLie 05-08-2022 11:21

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Originally Posted by Son of Stopped (Post 2694027)
Probably the political angle of it's lyrics. Might be a better fit for Solidarity.

Yeah, you are probably right. The Lyrics on DTTR are, generally, more personal. Although BE may well have sat comfortably next to LRS, both musically & lyrically. Certainly the lovely acoustic riff lends itself to DTTR, rather than being sandwiched between TC & MATC 😬

Suicide Aldi 05-08-2022 12:55

Im hoping the new remix muxes out all the instruments except for the vocals and acoustic guitar.

UEF 05-08-2022 13:34

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Originally Posted by TheUglyLie (Post 2694029)
Although Baby Elian may well have sat comfortably next to LRS, both musically & lyrically.

Cuba lyrics in Baby Elian and Let Robeson Sing, the Cuba (kinda) flag on Masses Against the Classes... and they just so coincidentally ended up launching the album in Cuba. Looking back, how much of that was premeditated? At the time I remember them saying "a friend pointed out all the Cuba references to us", but, come on...

Red 06-08-2022 13:06

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Originally Posted by UEF (Post 2694031)
Cuba lyrics in Baby Elian and Let Robeson Sing, the Cuba (kinda) flag on Masses Against the Classes... and they just so coincidentally ended up launching the album in Cuba. Looking back, how much of that was premeditated? At the time I remember them saying "a friend pointed out all the Cuba references to us", but, come on...

Interesting point.

I think the idea fits in with the reactionary nature of the era. The whole thing with the KYE era is that it was very deliberately made as the anti-Truth/anti-Glasto'99 era, and one of the big things about that era was the Manics' massively unsuccessful attempt to break America. Again. Doing the ol' "Well, I didn't actually like you anyway, I actually like your SWORN ENEMY" thing of giving up on courting America and instead courting Cuba seems consistent with the overall theme there.

UEF 06-08-2022 13:08

Interesting point Red, I hadn’t thought about it that way

Puts another perspective on their own “we totally wanted to throw our own success under the bus” narrative

Routine Builder 06-08-2022 15:13

Freedom of Speech is probably the most anti-US song in their back catalog.

manic marios 07-08-2022 18:08

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Originally Posted by UEF (Post 2694023)
Signed tat bundles still very much on sale

It's too expensive!! There's no excuse for such a selling price.


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