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Son of Stopped 20-12-2024 16:34

"Brushstrokes of Reunion" was a lyric James said he'd written. Is that another one for the album?

Glyn 21-12-2024 11:42

Sounding more and more like Critical Thinking and Onemanmilitia are angry bookends to the album too. Wonder if they are the 2 remaining Wire 'solo' tracks on the album.

MSPKYE 23-12-2024 21:51

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Originally Posted by MSPKYE (Post 2699462)
Morrissey apparently, that’ll be an interesting one!

So now we have with the picture of the vinyl:

1: Critical Thinking
2: Decline & Fall
3: ?
4: Hiding in Plain Sight
5: ?
6: ?
7: Being Baptised
8: My Brave Friend
9: Out of Time Revival
10: Deleted Scenes
11: Late Day Peaks
12: ONEMANMILITIA

And Dear Stephen in there somewhere

Revised:

1: Critical Thinking
2: Decline & Fall
3: Dear Stephen/Brush Strokes of Reunion(?)
4: Hiding in Plain Sight
5: People Ruin Paintings
6: Brush Strokes of Reunion/Dear Stephen(?)
7: Being Baptised
8: My Brave Friend
9: Out of Time Revival
10: Deleted Scenes
11: Late Day Peaks
12: ONEMANMILITIA

Son of Stopped 23-12-2024 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSPKYE (Post 2699589)
Revised:

1: Critical Thinking
2: Decline & Fall
3: Dear Stephen/Brush Strokes of Reunion(?)
4: Hiding in Plain Sight
5: People Ruin Paintings
6: Brush Strokes of Reunion/Dear Stephen(?)
7: Being Baptised
8: My Brave Friend
9: Out of Time Revival
10: Deleted Scenes
11: Late Day Peaks
12: ONEMANMILITIA

My guess from that is Dear Stephen follows Decline&Fall and Brush Strokes of Reunion follows People Ruin Paintings. But then that's following logic! They might pull a "Ah! That's what we wanted you to think!". Paintings Brush Strokes.
It sounds too good to be true but we'll find out soon. This time next month we'll be at fever pitch over it! Can the server cope?

IntlDebris 24-12-2024 13:49

I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a tracklist announcement with it only a few weeks away. Guessing it'll come with the third single.

Son of Stopped 24-12-2024 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSPKYE (Post 2699589)
Revised:

1: Critical Thinking
2: Decline & Fall
3: Dear Stephen/Brush Strokes of Reunion(?)
4: Hiding in Plain Sight
5: People Ruin Paintings
6: Brush Strokes of Reunion/Dear Stephen(?)
7: Being Baptised
8: My Brave Friend
9: Out of Time Revival
10: Deleted Scenes
11: Late Day Peaks
12: ONEMANMILITIA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son of Stopped (Post 2699590)
My guess from that is Dear Stephen follows Decline&Fall and Brush Strokes of Reunion follows People Ruin Paintings.

Then again... If Being Baptised is about Allen Toussaint then Dear Stephen makes a nice pair of musical tributes?
Of those titles "Out Of Time Revival" I'm most curious about. Obliviously want to hear the entire thing. But Out of Time Revival.
I could go insane speculating what the songs could be about.

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Originally Posted by IntlDebris (Post 2699595)
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a tracklist announcement with it only a few weeks away. Guessing it'll come with the third single.

I think the band are two busy rehearsing for that Japanese festival next month to put up the details.
This is a good thing because next January they are massively going to take charge of the media frenzy.
What I've noticed is last time R2 handled the vast bulk of media attention for TUVL.
This time 6Music is being implemented.
Wonder if because of the BBC history with the band ITV barely feature them. Unless in News stories.
But if it's quiet it's going to be the loudest when the process starts.
Merry Christmas all!

IntlDebris 24-12-2024 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son of Stopped (Post 2699597)
I think the band are two busy rehearsing for that Japanese festival next month to put up the details.

I think it's a combination of Sony's promotions & marketing people and the band's web managers that will be doing this sort of thing.

sofarsideways 25-12-2024 02:50

If ‘People Ruin Paintings’ is, as a friend suggested would make sense, a finger-wag at Just Stop Oil… I officially give up.

sofarsideways 25-12-2024 03:21

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Originally Posted by savemejebus (Post 2699514)
No one ever holds anything against the band, that's part of being a good manics fan, there's always an excuse.

Its ok to still like the music and admit that someone behaved a twat or worse, separate the art from the artist, but making excuses to justify shit behaviour is just .....unsurprising, it's been done since Richey was acting the creep why would it stop now.

This though. I can’t believe people are shrugging at the frontman of the great political band not even bothering to vote. And the member who’s so proud of his politics degree throwing in some more excuses for that self-indulgent apathy. Looking back now… we slippery-sloped here, huh? There were signs for a long time. I just didn’t or wouldn’t see them for what they were. I still haven’t really accepted it. This band was my LIFE.

How do you separate art and artist when at this point, the art is mostly about the artists and their increasingly vapid views? They don’t seem to stand for anything but themselves anymore. Unless we mean past art, of course

Son of Stopped 25-12-2024 10:20

Well it's great to see you back sofarsideways. Genuinely great to see you posting again.
Best thing is not work yourself up about what it could sound like or mean until we hear it.
Although the only vote I didn't turn up for was that Elected Police Commissioner referendum vote.

Routine Builder 25-12-2024 11:31

Can I point out that's it not that James didn't bother to vote but chose deliberately not to vote. There is a difference though might have been slightly better if he had spoilt his ballot so it would be counted. The remain campaign was weak sauce and us remainers bear responsibility for not convincing people.

I must also point out (as someone who voted remain and would wholeheartedly welcome Brexit being reversed) that the benefits of the EU were not spread equally. I think any of us from the PIGS countries and were young in 2008-2010 can attest to that. Wales collectively voted to leave in 2016 and I'm not really sure it can be attributed to Farragy anti-immigrant vote. Wales has treated as a backwater even during the Labour years. In 2016, Wales had spent 6 years being shafted by the conservatives voted in by English constituencies. Why should they have trusted a campaign fronted by the PM f**king them up the ass like a dead pig. While I want little to do with people who voted Leave (especially supposedly leftwing leave voters knowing that it would be gifted to the conservatives to implement), the biggest failure wasn't that the UK voted to leave, but that so many people in this country felt so disenfranchised that they felt the only way they could make was to make the country shoot itself in the foot. Both remainers and leavers created that society and we can't wash our hands of each other. Maybe if we spend more effort trying to make the UK work for everyone, the EU question would be easily solved because it would be relatively inconsequential in the scheme of things.

sofarsideways 25-12-2024 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son of Stopped (Post 2699601)
Well it's great to see you back sofarsideways. Genuinely great to see you posting again.
Best thing is not work yourself up about what it could sound like or mean until we hear it.
Although the only vote I didn't turn up for was that Elected Police Commissioner referendum vote.

Aw, thanks, that’s really lovely of you to say ^_^ A shame I’m back talking smack, but hey. Oh definitely, I’d be delighted if PRP turns out to be about something else or from a better angle, just, you know. The feeling of foreboding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Routine Builder (Post 2699603)
Can I point out that's it not that James didn't bother to vote but chose deliberately not to vote. There is a difference though might have been slightly better if he had spoilt his ballot so it would be counted. The remain campaign was weak sauce and us remainers bear responsibility for not convincing people.

Nah, sorry, completely disagree. It was obvious what needed to be done, regardless of all the complexities; it was actually very simple when it came down to placing an X on the paper. JDB seemed to want to make it about him instead. I think people like to use ‘it’s complicated’ to exonerate themselves.

Son of Stopped 27-12-2024 14:31

I reckon this date next week we'll get a new single.
Surprised they didn't try for a Christmas single.
But then Christmas is clearly cancelled for James at the minute on here!
Breathe in the calm before.

sitdown1985 27-12-2024 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by sofarsideways (Post 2699600)
How do you separate art and artist when at this point, the art is mostly about the artists and their increasingly vapid views? They don’t seem to stand for anything but themselves anymore. Unless we mean past art, of course

I voted for remain. But there's a valid left wing critique of a neoliberal trade bloc (just asked Jeremy Corbyn!). Perhaps you're not familiar with their later work, but having caught up on this thread, the lyrics to "Sequels of Forgotten Wars" seem awfully prescient !

sofarsideways 28-12-2024 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by sitdown1985 (Post 2699620)
I voted for remain. But there's a valid left wing critique of a neoliberal trade bloc (just asked Jeremy Corbyn!). Perhaps you're not familiar with their later work, but having caught up on this thread, the lyrics to "Sequels of Forgotten Wars" seem awfully prescient !

I’m aware. Like I said, it was still very clear what needed doing on the day, on account of what would happen if Leave won. You can amend your relationship and indeed the institution itself, if you’re in the relationship. Everyone can talk about the complexities and nuances until kingdom come, but for the matter of the actual vote on the day, it’s obfuscation. It’s excusing yourself. It’s allowing the worst because preventing that was ‘complicated’ and ‘didn’t win me over’.

You don’t have to be pro-EU as it is, just agree that it’s better than Brexit, even if that’s ALL you can accept. But that’s too much to ask? This wasn’t a general election. Least-worst/damage control was enough of a call, and attempting to intensely polarise it is part of why we ended up here. The least worst was WAY less worse, considering the realities of international relations, and much moreover - crucially - that the worst stood for even worse than what it was in itself. I do not understand checking out.

And I don’t really understand Brexit handwringing over JDB not! voting!! Where is the bar for this band these days? What do we expect or hold them to? What could they do that would pull you up short? It’s funny that they’re the ones who made me have an apparently high standard for them.

EDIT: I don’t mean to sound hostile AT anyone, I am just VEXED


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