did nicky really play all the instruments apart from the drums? - Forever Delayed

#1 03-09-2006, 10:07

because a lot of it seems rather above him (ie, the solo in kimino rock)

Tom · #2 03-09-2006, 10:59

I doubt it. I reckon he just wrote the basic chords and one of the Secret Society (there are two other guitarists aren't there?) wrote a solo over the top of it

Dai_in_the_summertime · #3 03-09-2006, 13:04

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician. He can't play a note on the Manics albums, it's always james who does the bass.

Tom · #4 03-09-2006, 13:07

he's not seen a musician. and he does play the bass parts. he's not a bad bass player, he just likes plays up to his reputation of being a bit shit

#5 03-09-2006, 13:07

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician.

he plays the guitar

therefore, he is a musician

any problems?

adore failure · #6 03-09-2006, 13:14

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician. He can't play a note on the Manics albums, it's always james who does the bass.

Nicky had always played guitar until Flicker left the Manics and so he had to start playing the bass so the guitar is his first instrument. There is nothing to suggest that Nicky doesn't play on the Manics albums, although there was a rumour that James was the only Manic to play on Generation Terrorists.

Dai_in_the_summertime · #7 03-09-2006, 13:22

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Originally Posted by adore failure

Nicky had always played guitar until Flicker left the Manics and so he had to start playing the bass so the guitar is his first instrument. There is nothing to suggest that Nicky doesn't play on the Manics albums, although there was a rumour that James was the only Manic to play on Generation Terrorists.

James played the bass line on Archives Of Pain, Miss Europa Disco Dancer. Ok, he plays the guitar....badly.

#8 03-09-2006, 13:35

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

Ok, he plays the guitar....badly.

so? he still plays it as a profession, so he's a musician

no-one said he's a good musician

centralscrutiniser · #9 03-09-2006, 13:24

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Originally Posted by adore failure

Nicky had always played guitar until Flicker left the Manics and so he had to start playing the bass so the guitar is his first instrument. There is nothing to suggest that Nicky doesn't play on the Manics albums, although there was a rumour that James was the only Manic to play on Generation Terrorists.

Do you mean drums as well? Nicky seems a perfectly competant bass player, particually compared to some of the other bassists around.

adore failure · #10 03-09-2006, 14:07

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Originally Posted by centralscrutiniser

Do you mean drums as well?

I believe a drum machine was used on GT.

Bach Psychosis · #11 03-09-2006, 16:22

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician. He can't play a note on the Manics albums, it's always james who does the bass.

You are so deeply wrong about that it's not even funny.

Would you please stop pretending that you know what you're talking about?

Dai_in_the_summertime · #12 03-09-2006, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Bach Psychosis

You are so deeply wrong about that it's not even funny.

Would you please stop pretending that you know what you're talking about?

I don't consider Nicky Wire to be a good bass player. He's very, very, average. James has done the bass on countless tracks in the various sessions. If you actually read through a lot of the articles, interviews, etc, he has said he has played the bass. I know he did the bass-line on AOP and he also did the bass on black garden and on Miss Europa Disco Dancer.

mfadaptor · #13 03-09-2006, 18:33

But 'Democracy Coma' came out before 'GT'?!!

Anyway. we all know he plays on the clueless fuckwit thing, I can't wait for the album, I really like the fact that Bradfield's done the whole respectable AOR singer-songwriter over-polished thing, whilst Nicky's very much Indier-Than-Thou

'I Killed The Zeitgeist' is bound to be engaging listening. His voice beats Sam ex-Hope of the States hands down, for instance. 'Break My Heart Slowly' is a sweet little song, the naivety is charming...

Bach Psychosis · #14 03-09-2006, 18:57

You said:

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

It pisses me off that Wire is seen as a musician. He can't play a note on the Manics albums, it's always james who does the bass.

Then you said:

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

I don't consider Nicky Wire to be a good bass player. He's very, very, average. James has done the bass on countless tracks in the various sessions. If you actually read through a lot of the articles, interviews, etc, he has said he has played the bass. I know he did the bass-line on AOP and he also did the bass on black garden and on Miss Europa Disco Dancer.

There are tremendous disparities between those two statements. I won't insult anyone's intelligence by enumerating them.

Nicky Wire may not be a musical genius, but whether you like it or not, he is a competent musician.

mrvitaminpill · #15 03-09-2006, 20:18

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Originally Posted by ASmileBehindBrokenTeeth

. I know he did the bass-line on AOP and he also did the bass on black garden and on Miss Europa Disco Dancer.

nicky wire said in an interview he played bass on aop, and in the credits in kye theres no metion of james playing bass on medd.

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Originally Posted by Bach Psychosis

Nicky Wire may not be a musical genius, but whether you like it or not, he is a competent musician.

exactly. anyone who has been playing live shows from 1989 is going to be a competent musican