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08-06-2011, 19:28
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Disagree with that about Lifeblood in the interview from Holland, James! It's understanding that you can still be a punk band and have quieter more considered moments as well!
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08-06-2011, 20:09
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12-06-2011, 21:43
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Shelf of hate (in this order):
1. Angie Kruger 2. Rhona Cameron 2. Ben Meyers 4. Jenny Watkins-Isnardi
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12-06-2011, 23:45
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Ben deserves no hate, he's upset nobody and hasn't exploited the Manics.
Predicting the argument, he really hasn't, there would have been more lucrative figures, he wasn't in it for the money, and it was a good book.
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12-06-2011, 23:55
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13-06-2011, 00:07
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Nope, seems an alright bloke who wrote a fiction book that (shock horror!) wasn't completely accurate. The others are 1: A mad and exploitative fake (they all are) medium. 2. An insensitive TV presenter and 4: A woman eager for fame who made up stuff about the Manics for the money and mislead people. It's unfair to put Ben in that list.
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13-06-2011, 00:47
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completely ignoring the fact that actually I consider Richey as a man who made this to his family on his own... but at least I dont write books on that! (sorry its pretty late and i still havent finished the essay)
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#129
13-06-2011, 09:06
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I wouldn't have minded if he'd done a work of fiction with a character based on Richey, but as Deets said, putting thoughts into someone's head is pretty disgusting; especially given the fact that no-one knows what he was thinking/doing at the time. If it had been an outright suicide it might have been different but the nature of what happened means it'll always be raw to his friends and family. It's pretty fucking offensive and he well deserves his place on the list of hate.
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#130
13-06-2011, 11:57
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Richey isn't a completely unapproachable subject, people always seem happy on here to argue about what they thought happened to him or what he thought about various things, people write fanfics about him, surely that's more offensive than somebody giving a very lenient (I thought) account of Richey.
Artistic license permits authors to re-imagine people anyway but I think Ben honestly tried to stay as true to the Richey he knew as possible and to him it probably wasn't a big issue to write from the mind as Richey. He caused offence to a few people but frankly most people don't care and I think it's a small price to pay for a decent piece of fiction. You obviously both read it anyway, if attempting to think like Richey is so offensive and wrong you should have avoided it completely. And maybe it's good for Nicky to be offended, he's caused his own fair share. Love you guyz anyway.
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#131
13-06-2011, 12:29
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I didn't really like Ben Myer's book, but he seems like a decent person. It wasn't because it was about Richey and I thought it was exploiting him or anything that I didn't like it, I went into the book expecting the best. But I was just disappointed with the way it was written.
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13-06-2011, 15:44
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13-06-2011, 16:02
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The Cameron woman did a snide interview with the band in the 90's and go Deets for still hating her! But no she is awful. And unfunny. The last one, Jenny, I'm drawing a blank. WHOHELLSHE?
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#134
13-06-2011, 16:08
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i remember rhona cameron being funny at the time..not the interview just generally. I don't think she was being deliberately mean. Was it a saturday morning show? The glove puppet makes me think it was. Even Nicky was trying to lift the mood a bit. Richey started on his Life is shit mantra which wasn't really appropriate for a 5 minute interview. Think rhona just didnt know how to respond.
Saying that i might be remembering it wrong. It was a loooooong time ago and she might've loathed the band
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#135
13-06-2011, 16:10
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