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Old 16-09-2013, 15:15
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I kinda like it, it means I'm not bothered I'm not there missing interesting songs lol.
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Old 16-09-2013, 15:25
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I kinda like it, it means I'm not bothered I'm not there missing interesting songs lol.
Probably the best way to look at it!
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Old 16-09-2013, 16:12
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Love that all the people complaining about the setlist weren't actually there
It's always the way! I agree it's a completely different experience being there to seeing the setlist roll in on Twitter/FD. I know I've scanned setlists of gigs I've not been at before and thought 'that's a bit dull/safe', but I know if I'd been there I'd have appreciated it a lot more. I loved acoustic Everlasting at Newport, simply because the crowd sounded so loud singing along and James looked really appreciative of the response. It was a nice moment that doesn't translate if you're just reading about it on the internet.
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Nicky's stories about Richey on Friday are such a great example. There's no point me trying to write up the stories he told. It's just the same stuff we've heard a hundred times really. But the look on his face, his tone of voice, the way it cracks when he gets too emotional... That's what people were responding to on the night. That's what made it so special.
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Old 16-09-2013, 17:05
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Been home about an hour, totally dead but totally hyper, goddamnit Manics.

Newport was amazing, even after a four-hour queue in the rain. Said queue was also pitiful, I know it was chucking it down, but come on Manixfans, get your 4real on. Queued with 2 of my homiest homies, it was my Sarah's first Manics gig, first queue, first barrier, I am so very proud of her. Baptism by torrential downpour. The support band were quite possibly the worst thing in the world. 'Hey guys, y'know what there's a gap in the market for? GOTH KASABIAN.' No. NO. Go away. Far, far away. And do not pose when you get there.

The set was fantastic, a bit short, but I can forgive that. Not a fan of Hawley but RTF was gorgeous live, as was TSWH, both nearly had me in tears... not feeling AAFALC that much, it was alright, SMTW MUCH better than on record. AHATS greatest thing ever. So good to hear NSAF again, though not entirely convinced it worked as an opener. EI:BP was a treat. I get the impression they're giving Revol the Sleepflower treatment, ie eventually give in to years of demand, play at every gig for awhile, then file away again. Which is fine, I'm making the most of it while it's there, so much fun. Surprised by the absolute lack of GATS representation, if I had to really look for something to change I'd swap OS for something else, but gah, it was all so good. Great way to come back, they seemed to love it as much as we did. I may have come out declaring 'I AM ALIVE AGAIN' ^___^

Lovely to see Lindz again in the queue, and to meet Marwood however fleetingly while we were waiting for the band to appear hope we can talk more at Manchester! And then all the people afterwards, so many people, they were all very nice, I like Manixfanz very much. It was basically Homiefest '13 for me, with bonus spiffy new people. Nicky came out but only for about 10 seconds before getting whisked away, I managed to give him the bag o' gifts I'd brought for him, he was very sweet and was asking how I was but someone nabbed him before I could reply, then he was saying he had to rush off. Ah well. It's okay. Present handover was the important thing. There's always Manchester

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When Nicky said that they weren't sure which song to play, I thought he was posing a question to the crowd. A unique first - as Nicky might say - I thought. But there was no crowd voting.
I was on the barrier Nicky's side, and everyone within about a 50-person radius of me voted very very loudly, I promise you The crowd was also perfectly lively where I was, and looked to be in front of James as well.

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I know what it's like sitting at home watching these lists appear, but it's a completely different experience when you're actually there. Sure, when you see The Everlasting listed on a website it's easy to think "same old, same old", but you're missing your emotional response to the music, the crowd's reactions, James' mood, his interactions with the crowd, his little jokes, etc. And that's true of the entire gig. The way James and Nicky relate to each other and poke fun at each other onstage, Nicky giving a big smile halfway through a song that just seems to be meant for YOU... None of it translates well when you're reading lists and dry, garbled reminisces on a forum. Reading about a gig online just misses so much of the actual experience.

Nicky's stories about Richey on Friday are such a great example. There's no point me trying to write up the stories he told. It's just the same stuff we've heard a hundred times really. But the look on his face, his tone of voice, the way it cracks when he gets too emotional... That's what people were responding to on the night. That's what made it so special.
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. That was one of the best renditions of 'The Everlasting' I've witnessed. And oh my God, Nicky's feelings. Where do I even start. I was worried when the undecorated micstand came out, and when he got cut off by guitar noise the first time he went to say something. But he seemed to liven up after a few songs, and then more and more as the gig went on. I was welling up when he asked if he should sing and all I could hear was people yelling to the affirmative, and then he did such a wonderful job of it. I'm not saying James doesn't have emotion in his voice when he sings - that obviously could not be further from the truth - but Nicky has a different kind which I'm quite unable to put into words, it is far too special and experiencing it is pure magic.

He actually killed me with the Richeylove, I slithered down the barrier making wibbly noises. Apparently some silly journalist reported that he said 'this one's for you, buddy' - he said 'this one's for you BABY', after lamenting what a wonderful mind and body Richey had. Oh, Wire.
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Old 16-09-2013, 17:08
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Awww... Loved reading this!! ^^
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I know what it's like sitting at home watching these lists appear, but it's a completely different experience when you're actually there. Sure, when you see The Everlasting listed on a website it's easy to think "same old, same old", but you're missing your emotional response to the music, the crowd's reactions, James' mood, his interactions with the crowd, his little jokes, etc. And that's true of the entire gig. The way James and Nicky relate to each other and poke fun at each other onstage, Nicky giving a big smile halfway through a song that just seems to be meant for YOU... None of it translates well when you're reading lists and dry, garbled reminisces on a forum. Reading about a gig online just misses so much of the actual experience.
Yes, and no, I'd say. That's definitely a point, but I've been to enough manics gigs to be able to have a sense in my mind of what a gig would have been like...obviously i wasn't there, and I can't get a full picture, but it's not just reading a list as if I've never seen them live. I'm almost certain if i'd been there I'd have enjoyed it, but I'm not sure that's what setlist comments are about - even being there some people may have been disappointed, and I think that's as valid an opinion as people screaming loudly about how amazing every second was (not that people here are doing that, but you know).
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Been home about an hour, totally dead but totally hyper, goddamnit Manics.

Newport was amazing, even after a four-hour queue in the rain. Said queue was also pitiful, I know it was chucking it down, but come on Manixfans, get your 4real on. Queued with 2 of my homiest homies, it was my Sarah's first Manics gig, first queue, first barrier, I am so very proud of her. Baptism by torrential downpour. The support band were quite possibly the worst thing in the world. 'Hey guys, y'know what there's a gap in the market for? GOTH KASABIAN.' No. NO. Go away. Far, far away. And do not pose when you get there.

The set was fantastic, a bit short, but I can forgive that. Not a fan of Hawley but RTF was gorgeous live, as was TSWH, both nearly had me in tears... not feeling AAFALC that much, it was alright, SMTW MUCH better than on record. AHATS greatest thing ever. So good to hear NSAF again, though not entirely convinced it worked as an opener. EI:BP was a treat. I get the impression they're giving Revol the Sleepflower treatment, ie eventually give in to years of demand, play at every gig for awhile, then file away again. Which is fine, I'm making the most of it while it's there, so much fun. Surprised by the absolute lack of GATS representation, if I had to really look for something to change I'd swap OS for something else, but gah, it was all so good. Great way to come back, they seemed to love it as much as we did. I may have come out declaring 'I AM ALIVE AGAIN' ^___^

Lovely to see Lindz again in the queue, and to meet Marwood however fleetingly while we were waiting for the band to appear hope we can talk more at Manchester! And then all the people afterwards, so many people, they were all very nice, I like Manixfanz very much. It was basically Homiefest '13 for me, with bonus spiffy new people. Nicky came out but only for about 10 seconds before getting whisked away, I managed to give him the bag o' gifts I'd brought for him, he was very sweet and was asking how I was but someone nabbed him before I could reply, then he was saying he had to rush off. Ah well. It's okay. Present handover was the important thing. There's always Manchester



I was on the barrier Nicky's side, and everyone within about a 50-person radius of me voted very very loudly, I promise you The crowd was also perfectly lively where I was, and looked to be in front of James as well.



THIS. SO MUCH THIS. That was one of the best renditions of 'The Everlasting' I've witnessed. And oh my God, Nicky's feelings. Where do I even start. I was worried when the undecorated micstand came out, and when he got cut off by guitar noise the first time he went to say something. But he seemed to liven up after a few songs, and then more and more as the gig went on. I was welling up when he asked if he should sing and all I could hear was people yelling to the affirmative, and then he did such a wonderful job of it. I'm not saying James doesn't have emotion in his voice when he sings - that obviously could not be further from the truth - but Nicky has a different kind which I'm quite unable to put into words, it is far too special and experiencing it is pure magic.

He actually killed me with the Richeylove, I slithered down the barrier making wibbly noises. Apparently some silly journalist reported that he said 'this one's for you, buddy' - he said 'this one's for you BABY', after lamenting what a wonderful mind and body Richey had. Oh, Wire.
Rach sorry didn't see you at Newport as didn't queue but are you doing london? I'm deffo going to queue then!
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A couple of reviews of the gig online (as pointed out by Nicky on Twitter):

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/new...ewport/?ref=ms (God knows why they've used a photo from a different gig )
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-o...centre-6022729
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Old 16-09-2013, 20:12
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http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/new...ewport/?ref=ms (God knows why they've used a photo from a different gig )
They may not have been granted photo access for that particular publication and/or could not afford the rights for any images through an agency like getty for example. May have used one of their own from an old show they covered.
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Yeah I appreciate that, it just made me laugh that it's blatantly not from this gig judging by James' hair and lack of jacket, I shall not be fooled
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Old 16-09-2013, 20:46
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Rach sorry didn't see you at Newport as didn't queue but are you doing london? I'm deffo going to queue then!
Hey bb! I kept an eye out but didn't spot you Alas I'm only doing Manchester now. Extremely foolish parts of my brain are trying to convince me that Bristol or London would be an excellent idea, but they are high on Wire and biscuits and I must ignore them. I really can't do any other dates. But next tour... oh, next tour. And I'll definitely be down your way sometime before the end of the year, so hopefully we can try again then!
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Hey bb! I kept an eye out but didn't spot you Alas I'm only doing Manchester now. Extremely foolish parts of my brain are trying to convince me that Bristol or London would be an excellent idea, but they are high on Wire and biscuits and I must ignore them. I really can't do any other dates. But next tour... oh, next tour. And I'll definitely be down your way sometime before the end of the year, so hopefully we can try again then!
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I was on the barrier Nicky's side, and everyone within about a 50-person radius of me voted very very loudly, I promise you The crowd was also perfectly lively where I was, and looked to be in front of James as well.
Oh, I didn't mean there weren't calls from the crowd, rather no interaction from the band by saying something like, "I think they're going for 30-Year War, Jimbo".
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Oh, I didn't mean there weren't calls from the crowd, rather no interaction from the band by saying something like, "I think they're going for 30-Year War, Jimbo".
Oh I get you I don't think they needed to, the response was pretty overwhelming - I was really surprised, but in a good way!
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