"All virgins are liars honey"

[Slideling]

Originally Posted by another invented username

Well, Richey did say he didn't lose his virginity until well into his twenties, the ****ing little liar!

Interesting.

[Abstract Unknown Girl]

Originally Posted by another invented username

Actually, I've changed my theory slightly. Virgins are liars because they always deny that they are virgins or evade the issue. The only people who openly tell others they are virgins aren't virgins. Oh, and then we get to the few who do admit to being virgins but say they are virgins through choice. Clearly another filthy lie.

Generally speaking.

Just how many sweeping generalisations can you fit in one post?

[Slideling]

*giggle*

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by Abstract Unknown Girl

Just how many sweeping generalisations can you fit in one post?

In a post where I put 'generally speaking' concerning the line "all virgins are liars", I'm free to make all the generalisations I want. Maybe I should have addressed Richey's "all virgins..." with 'what he means by this is some virgins are liars because...'?

At least you didn't use the *rolls eyes* smilie. However, I'm afraid I simply can't resist

[Slideling]

Hey, I'm sure it wasn't made to offend you! Just take it as another angle in the discussion, because like you said it's a part of the song that's in black/white and anyone's allowed to question a certain pattern like that.

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by Muffuselah

Hey, I'm sure it wasn't made to offend you!

I never particularly thought it was meant to be attacking me as such, which is why I remarked on the lack of any rolling eyes, but I just couldn't resist using them myself out of pure Monday morning/afternoon evilness

[Abstract Unknown Girl]

Originally Posted by another invented username

In a post where I put 'generally speaking' concerning the line "all virgins are liars", I'm free to make all the generalisations I want. Maybe I should have addressed Richey's "all virgins..." with 'what he means by this is some virgins are liars because...'?

At least you didn't use the *rolls eyes* smilie. However, I'm afraid I simply can't resist

I never actually said you couldn't make generalisations, so relax bunny boiler and give into those smilies, you big rebel

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by Abstract Unknown Girl

I never actually said you couldn't make generalisations, so relax bunny boiler and give into those smilies, you big rebel

OK, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but now I'm disappointed. Your original 'point' was utterly pointless, as is your subsequent bizarre choice of namecalling, which I object to and is something I don't wish to participate in on a forum of this one's nature.

[Abstract Unknown Girl]

Originally Posted by another invented username

OK, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but now I'm disappointed. Your original 'point' was utterly pointless, as is your subsequent bizarre choice of namecalling, which I object to and is something I don't wish to participate in on a forum of this one's nature.

Oh no, you're disappointed in me...I'm so bothered

[Dancing Kirby]

Originally Posted by Abstract Unknown Girl

Oh no, you're disappointed in me...I'm so bothered

If you weren't bothered I very much doubt you'd have bothered to reply.

I guess I only took the "virgin" part literally. I took the "liar" bit to kind of just mean bad. Kind of like he's saying that virgins are just bad or something? I guess I thought that because of his own personal experience. I think he thought his virginity (when he had it, obviously) was a very negative thing... or that it was holding him back from truly enjoying life (I think that because he said that when he was a virgin all of his friends used to say how fantastic sex was and blah blah blah)... or maybe it's that virgins are lying to themselves in thinking that there is some sort of virtue in waiting for marriage (or whatever they're waiting for to have sex).

But really, I just always thought he was talking about himself... when he was a virgin. And I never took "liar" very literally.

Originally Posted by ThisBeTheVerse

Or did he mean that metaphorically everybody's been fucked by somebody?

That's a fantastic way of analysing that! I never thought of that at all!

[Dai_in_the_summertime]

I'm a virgin but then again I am lying.

[Slideling]

Originally Posted by funiculus

I guess I only took the "virgin" part literally. I took the "liar" bit to kind of just mean bad. Kind of like he's saying that virgins are just bad or something? I guess I thought that because of his own personal experience. I think he thought his virginity (when he had it, obviously) was a very negative thing... or that it was holding him back from truly enjoying life (I think that because he said that when he was a virgin all of his friends used to say how fantastic sex was and blah blah blah)... or maybe it's that virgins are lying to themselves in thinking that there is some sort of virtue in waiting for marriage (or whatever they're waiting for to have sex).

But really, I just always thought he was talking about himself... when he was a virgin. And I never took "liar" very literally.

That's a very different prespective... But a like a bit of variety myself. Have not thought of it before!

[bornagirl76]

Originally Posted by funiculus

I guess I only took the "virgin" part literally. I took the "liar" bit to kind of just mean bad. Kind of like he's saying that virgins are just bad or something? I guess I thought that because of his own personal experience. I think he thought his virginity (when he had it, obviously) was a very negative thing...

I dunno about that, he wore his "I Miss My Virginity" badge with pride in 1994/95! (it was a pressie from an American fan at the Astoria gigs, he's wearing it in that last Japanese interview).