Will No Manifesto appear ever?

[hummingbird]

Originally Posted by UEF

Does anyone know the words to Further Away? I don't

the further away i get from you
the further..... err.....ummm ...... no

[Takk]

What you said.

[The Descent]

Cheers for the vid, Elizabeth - I love Further Away, so really appreciated that one! As a newbie, I've been busy getting caught up with all the videos you've previously uploaded to your YouTube channel and, going by the entertainment value of the out-takes, I can't wait to see the full film when it finally materialises!

[Tetsuo]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth M

Actually, there aren't endless hours of it at all. We have about 45 hours' worth of footage from studio sessions, and most of it is them playing the same few songs over and over again, then listening back to the recordings, then repeating that process. It's very repetitive, and though certainly interesting in certain ways, like any creative process it is more work and less fun than the final product makes it seem.

We are currently combing through the footage finding fun scenes like these to put on our YouTube channel and for extras for the film's DVD release, so, eventually, everyone will get to see all the good stuff. We're glad you're enjoying it so far. Thanks for all the nice comments!

What's happening? Is there definitely going to be a DVD release? Any idea what year you're aiming for?

Has the final cut been decided on? Is it much different from what has already been previewed?

Originally Posted by Elizabeth M

45 hours of footage from recording sessions, yes. We shot about 300 hours altogether, which included gigs, gig rehearsals, band interviews, fan interviews, and incidentals.

You should take all that footage to BBC Wales or S4C and get them to make it in to a Manics reality show.

[Elizabeth M]

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

What's happening? Is there definitely going to be a DVD release? Any idea what year you're aiming for?

We are hoping to be able to release the film this year.

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

Has the final cut been decided on? Is it much different from what has already been previewed?

The cut has been final for several months now. It is substantially different from the cut shown at the Sheffield Doc Fest in November of 2008, and somewhat different from the cut shown in New York in September of 2009.

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

You should take all that footage to BBC Wales or S4C and get them to make it in to a Manics reality show.

Eight years ago, upon hearing "300 hours of footage," I would have thought exactly the same thing. However, to address that number, it sounds like a lot more than it actually is. For one thing, that 300 hours includes ALL footage shot for the film, not just footage shot of the Manics themselves. For another, there is a LOT of downtime on film, lots of times when the camera doesn't have the interesting shot, lots of times when there simply isn't anything interesting going on. Adding the difficulty of getting clean audio in a verite setting where your subjects aren't intentionally projecting their voices or speaking directly into microphones renders even more of the footage unusable. Edited pieces make it seem as though every minute is captured in full scintillating glory, but in fact, the 5-minute edited piece that rivets your attention probably came from hours of raw footage.

Reality show? By working hard, we just managed to put together one little 103-minute film that told a coherent story! DVD extras are fun for documentary filmmakers, because that's where they get to use all the fun scenes that didn't fit into the story flow of the film, but this, too, adds to the illusion that the lives of people who are being documented are constantly full of excitement and action when in reality, most of the time their lives really aren't that much different from anyone else's. This is another thing that I was quite startled to learn during the process of making this film.

[StandAndStare]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth M

We are hoping to be able to release the film this year.

Great news! Hope no more unwelcome surprises will get in your way now.

And good luck on the NY screening

[Dancing Kirby]

I want to see it on a massive screen in 3D. Epsecially the bit with Sean and his gun.

[sculptureofabloke]

Elizabeth, what period does your footage cover? From the stuff you've put out so far it all looks 2005-2007, there anything else you've snuck in?

[Deets]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth M

45 hours of footage from recording sessions, yes. We shot about 300 hours altogether, which included gigs, gig rehearsals, band interviews, fan interviews, and incidentals.

oh dear, I want to see it so much.

[Elizabeth M]

Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke

Elizabeth, what period does your footage cover? From the stuff you've put out so far it all looks 2005-2007, there anything else you've snuck in?

Our principal shooting took place during 2005-2007, but we have material from 2008-2009 as well. The film tells the story of the Manics from their inception up through the release of Journal For Plague Lovers.

[UEF]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth M

Our principal shooting took place during 2005-2007, but we have material from 2008-2009 as well. The film tells the story of the Manics from their inception up through the release of Journal For Plague Lovers.

That's interesting, I thought it purely chronicled the development of SATT... I hope the crucial "Let's make a good album!" idea moment is captured

[Deets]

Originally Posted by UEF

That's interesting, I thought it purely chronicled the development of SATT... I hope the crucial "Let's make a good album!" idea moment is captured

and what happened was the average album with freakingly amazing b-sides.

[UEF]

Originally Posted by Deets

and what happened was the average album with freakingly amazing b-sides.

I meant in the period after SATT

[sculptureofabloke]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth M

Our principal shooting took place during 2005-2007, but we have material from 2008-2009 as well. The film tells the story of the Manics from their inception up through the release of Journal For Plague Lovers.

Ooh, nice one. Lookin forward to it.

[Takk]

In case anyone's in the US, Elizabeth is doing a screening in NYC...check the NYC meetup thread.