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1985 · #**2731** 24-02-2011, 12:19

I actually thought his voice was really shot (over a gig's length anyway), but Brixton made me feel that it was better than what I thought and I was pretty impressed. Unfortunately it's never going to be how it was, but then that's just life

MrCarbo · #**2732** 24-02-2011, 12:22

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Originally Posted by 1985

I actually thought his voice was really shot (over a gig's length anyway), but Brixton made me feel that it was better than what I thought and I was pretty impressed. Unfortunately it's never going to be how it was, but then that's just life

Aye, maybe the performances I've seen his been ill/tired/under the weather/ not arsed... and to be fair he was ill before christmas I seem to recall?

Musically he needs to be inspired...

hummingbird · #**2733** 24-02-2011, 20:34

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Aye, maybe the performances I've seen his been ill/tired/under the weather/ not arsed... and to be fair he was ill before christmas I seem to recall?

Musically he needs to be inspired...

which shows did you go to? He was brilliant at Brixton. Nothing wrong with his voice at all

The Gutless Wonder · #**2734** 24-02-2011, 23:22

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Indeed and unfortunately James' voice is deteriorating fairly quickly now, as is his spark.

I VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE!!!!!!!!!

StarBright · #**2735** 25-02-2011, 05:55

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Fair enough, but can't put me right cos it's my opinion. I don't think his voice (live) is anything like as good as it used to be. The range isn't there, the notes aren't held the same, the shouting/screaming is forced and unconvincing.

It's all forced. The songs are formulaic and uninspiring, but then so are the majority of lyrics provided by Nicky.

On the last album there are a few euphoric moments, but not enough. There's no subtelty. Nothing epic. Nothing fresh.

Compare recent "Last Christmas" performance to the TFI one. TFI was magical, the recent performance was a bit embarrassing.

I disagree with pretty much everything you've said there. Don't get me wrong, I can also have moments of dissapointment in certain manics songs and I don't have a "everything the manics have ever done is better than anyone else" mentality but to say James has lost his range or isn't inspired is pure rubbish (Yeah, you're projecting an opinion which your entitled too but still...). I think James has sounded more vitalised musically and vocally strong in the last 4 years than ever before.

The Gutless Wonder · #**2736** 25-02-2011, 07:23

Yeah, and considering how ill he was at the end of last year he was still giving it some welly!

MrCarbo · #**2737** 25-02-2011, 11:35

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I disagree with pretty much everything you've said there. Don't get me wrong, I can also have moments of dissapointment in certain manics songs and I don't have a "everything the manics have ever done is better than anyone else" mentality but to say James has lost his range or isn't inspired is pure rubbish (Yeah, you're projecting an opinion which your entitled too but still...). I think James has sounded more vitalised musically and vocally strong in the last 4 years than ever before.

TGW was fantastic. Everything since has been disappointing.

StarBright · #**2738** 25-02-2011, 12:04

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TGW was fantastic. Everything since has been disappointing.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I don't seriously believe that you truly believe that since 2006 everything the Manics have done has been a dissapointment? surely you must like at least 5 songs from that prolific output?

MrCarbo · #**2739** 25-02-2011, 12:36

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You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I don't seriously believe that you truly believe that since 2006 everything the Manics have done has been a dissapointment? surely you must like at least 5 songs from that prolific output?

Disappointing in that there are only probably 10 songs from that time that I really like. All the others are a bit... whatever.

The Gutless Wonder · #**2740** 25-02-2011, 13:34

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Disappointing in that there are only probably 10 songs from that time that I really like. All the others are a bit... whatever.

A shame you feel like that, so many fantastic songs!

helvissa · #**2741** 25-02-2011, 15:03

I spose you can't hear too well sitting under that bridge waiting for the goats to come trip-trap-trip-trap overhead.

MrCarbo · #**2742** 25-02-2011, 15:16

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I spose you can't hear too well sitting under that bridge waiting for the goats to come trip-trap-trip-trap overhead.

Anyway. Manics are still my favourite band, nothing comes close... they're just a bit of a let down for me recently.

Maybe the next album will be better.

Ken Korda · #**2743** 25-02-2011, 15:59

Great meeting with faber+faber about the manics polaroid book-mark farrow to design as well-good times x

Great, another thing Manics fans can waste all their money on.

Frozendiva · #**2744** 25-02-2011, 16:02

I wouldn't mind a proper e-commerce feature for the Manics site that allows international fans to purchase downloads of the singles and B-sides.

riot_star · #**2745** 25-02-2011, 16:06

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Great meeting with faber+faber about the manics polaroid book-mark farrow to design as well-good times x

Great, another thing Manics fans can waste all their money on.

I didn't know my Dad designs for the Manics!?

(no joke my Dad is called Mark Farrow)