Where Will Autumnsong Chart?

[Europa Gluten Free]

Originally Posted by Lancashire Potter

Then you can brush the last 10 years under the carpet. Autumnsong is the best single since 1996. They stooped low with TIMT and Lifeblood, but I can't see what's wrong with SATT and especially its best song.

200+ posts?!?!?!!?!? And you come up with this?!??!

The only post Ive ever laughed out loud to.

You should change your username to "Autumsong is the best single since 1996".

That is the most incredibly stupid comment I've heard on this forum (and there have been a few).

I must go now through your post history to no doubt unearth some other gems.

I bet you're one of those thats goes to 3 or 4 gigs a tour!! Classic!

You're a real Manics fan!

[Lancashire Potter]

Funny how some little imbecile gets aggressive because someone else prefers other Manics singles than him.
Why don't you listen to Autumnsong instead? Did I mention it's the best Manics single since 1996? It definitely is.

[Lancashire Potter]

Now that poor little wanker has edited its post. *LOL*
It won't get more embarrassing than this.

[Europa Gluten Free]

Originally Posted by Lancashire Potter

Funny how some little imbecile gets aggressive because someone else prefers other Manics singles than him.
Why don't you listen to Autumnsong instead? Did I mention it's the best Manics single since 1996? It definitely is.

1. Riff intro that doesnt fit into tempo nor melody of song.

2. Throw away lyrics.

3. Which are then repeated in 3rd and 4th verses - a waste.

4. Obvious chord progression for verse.

5. Artificial lead up into main solo which seems like it was fitted in just for said solo.

6. Repeating vocal melody for start of solo - lazy.

7. Live it sounds disjointed - due to the way it was initially constructed.

8. "Done to your-or hair, done to your-or hair" etc...cringeworthy.

9. Commercial single choice by record company. Neither Nick or James mention it as highlight (James initally said he didnt like it).

10. Its the best single since 1996 supposedly.

[Flint]

I've always found it a bit lol when people start going on about chord progressions or similar music techiness as a reason to like/dislike a song.

[*Found That Soul*]

It's probs the 6th or 7th best single since 1996,but saying that it's still a corker!

[_Bloo_]

I can't be bothered to read through the bickering. Any idea where it's charting now?

[Always/Never]

Originally Posted by Dancing Kirby

But you have to ask yourself this: is it really a coincidence that Autumnsong has played host to not one but two of the most boring music videos of all time? Or is that just saying something about how bland and hollow the song is? Valerie's video in particular is a great artistic statement, with nothing but two girls all dressed up for the party but left looking bored while an anemic song plays in the background.

Both videos speak volumes about the song and it really will be best for the band in the long run if we can just brush this single release under the carpet as quickly as possible and hope everyone forgets the Manics ever stooped so low.

I think that the band did not have the time or - with pressing family matters for Nicky - the inclination to do anything else. Yes they are poor videos, and that is a shame, but I don't think that it has anything do do with the quality of the song.

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by proevpete

200+ posts?!?!?!!?!? And you come up with this?!??!

This is a stupid comment. Lancashire Potter is entitled to their own opinion, but attacking said opinion by referring to a post count is bizarre.

Personally, it's one of the weakest songs on SATT for me, but it makes commercial sense to release. Big guitar riff, catchy verse and chorus, euphoric climax etc...it's classic Manics' single fare really, although in the weakest form for me.

[Europa Gluten Free]

Originally Posted by Tristan

This is a stupid comment. Lancashire Potter is entitled to their own opinion, but attacking said opinion by referring to a post count is bizarre.

Yes she is but that doesnt mean that her opinion is correct.

Referring to the post count was in reference to her status as a Manics fan - i.e. she's a regular user and so would have some degree of Manic's knowledge. If thats indeed the case then surely she must be aware of the saccharine vomit that is Autumnsong.

Originally Posted by Tristan

Big guitar riff, catchy verse and chorus, euphoric climax etc...it's classic Manics' single fare really, although in the weakest form for me.

You've just contradicted yourself in one sentence and as a result undermined your position. So youre saying on the one hand it is classic Manics stuff - but its a weak song. Make up your mind. But it is the greatest Manics single since 1996.

[James1985]

200 post? who cares i first liked the manics back in 1995/96 and only posted 200+

i have seen them now 9 times live, james once - two signing sessions, every album and single since EMG era.. missed 3 exams and a wedding (the wedding was not mine) for the manics! DVD and tour shirts the list goes on!

I also know that the above is nothing compared to people who travel the world watching the band and various other events!

the point is regardlsy of post counts.. every one should be entitled to a views that can be debated.. but post counts irelevent in my eyes

Originally Posted by proevpete

200+ posts?!?!?!!?!? And you come up with this?!??!

The only post Ive ever laughed out loud to.

You should change your username to "Autumsong is the best single since 1996".

That is the most incredibly stupid comment I've heard on this forum (and there have been a few).

I must go now through your post history to no doubt unearth some other gems.

I bet you're one of those thats goes to 3 or 4 gigs a tour!! Classic!

You're a real Manics fan!

[Let_Robinson_Sing]

Originally Posted by proevpete

Yes she is but that doesnt mean that her opinion is correct.

Nor does it mean they are wrong either. Someone has a different opinion than yours. Thats life. Get over it.

Sorry HP dont know where it's charting, i dont even know where to look to find out. I bet Umbrella got to number 1 again.

[looke]

Originally Posted by proevpete

Yes she is but that doesnt mean that her opinion is correct.

Referring to the post count was in reference to her status as a Manics fan - i.e. she's a regular user and so would have some degree of Manic's knowledge. If thats indeed the case then surely she must be aware of the saccharine vomit that is Autumnsong.



You've just contradicted yourself in one sentence and as a result undermined your position. So youre saying on the one hand it is classic Manics stuff - but its a weak song. Make up your mind. But it is the greatest Manics single since 1996.

He not she

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by proevpete

Yes she is but that doesnt mean that her opinion is correct.

Referring to the post count was in reference to her status as a Manics fan - i.e. she's a regular user and so would have some degree of Manic's knowledge. If thats indeed the case then surely she must be aware of the saccharine vomit that is Autumnsong.

Ok, this is barely worth arguing with. What you're essentially saying is that music is not purely subjetive and as such I really don't know why you're wasting your time in this thread as it was always bound to descend to this if you go straight on the attack. Additionally, post count has nothing to do with knowledge on the Manics! I have a low post count, but I generally only post in the music forums on here, I rarely enter Culture Sluts, Queen Nick etc. Someone with limited Manics' knowledge could have 20,000 posts, mainly spent in non Manics' discussion. It would make difference either way to someone's opinion of Autumnsong though, at least not on any level save a superficial one.

Originally Posted by proevpete

You've just contradicted yourself in one sentence and as a result undermined your position. So youre saying on the one hand it is classic Manics stuff - but its a weak song. Make up your mind. But it is the greatest Manics single since 1996.

It is possible to appreciate the function of a song without liking it. The Manics song has all of the afforementioned elements that makes songs like "You Stole The Sun" and "A Design For Life" cross into the catchy pop category. Surely anyone can appreciate that in "Autumnsong", whether or not they like it? There's a tendency for Manics' fans to be blind to commercial needs sometimes - at the end of the day, the Manics are major label and thus one of their functions is to sell as many albums as is possible. As such, surely everyone can see the sense in releasing "Autumnsong" as a commercial tool? The faithful will buy the single regardless, but the record label, and I daresay the band too, want more than this. Even if this means a weak song, this release still has all the characteristics of a good pop song.

[YouLoveMe]

Originally Posted by proevpete

1. Riff intro that doesnt fit into tempo nor melody of song.

2. Throw away lyrics.

3. Which are then repeated in 3rd and 4th verses - a waste.

4. Obvious chord progression for verse.

5. Artificial lead up into main solo which seems like it was fitted in just for said solo.

6. Repeating vocal melody for start of solo - lazy.

7. Live it sounds disjointed - due to the way it was initially constructed.

8. "Done to your-or hair, done to your-or hair" etc...cringeworthy.

9. Commercial single choice by record company. Neither Nick or James mention it as highlight (James initally said he didnt like it).

10. Its the best single since 1996 supposedly.

The opening riff fits fine with the rest of the song for me and the song doesn't sound disjointed at all. And just because a song has obvious chord progression and throwaway lyrics doesn't make it shit.

I don't find the "done to your hair, done to your hair" part cringeworthy, I find it is genius, the perfect response to all those who think the Manics take themselves too seriously.

It's not the best Manics single since 1996 but it's in the top five since then for me.